wat the hell is so hard to just think can't 1v9 at any bracket=i'm not that good to become the next bracket
just practice those solo carry op heroes/solo carry support heroes,to carry your team
that's wat i'm feeling too now,i can't 1vs9 in 5k,so i practicing rightnow
i was like you before actually,i never played solo,hated it (heck i even got like only 199 solo ranked games now)
i played party with my friends,i beat 5-6ks at lane(when doing party mmr,5v5 scrims) [win some games too]
when my solo mmr is just 3500,and my party was 4444
i thought to myself too,i'm definitely a 5k player,or at least more
and i think that i definitely can get it easy,since i beat 5k 6ks already so i just dont do solo mmr anyway(since know i can get it)
then,medals come in
oh nice,i want to get that ancient medal(before party cant get)
started doing solo,it was a full streak from 3500-3900
afterwards,i hit a wall
no matter what i do,i will just win lose win lose win lose win lose
then,i just scrapped thinking of whatever of being me 6k or 5k,i got stuck in a friggin 3,9k for goodness sake a 5k player can solo carry my games,a fucking miracle can solo carry my games,a booster can definitely win all my games
WHY
I
CANT?
WHY I'M SO WEAK
faced reality,dropped those thinking that i'm good. read guides again that i read before,practiced them,watched alot of replays
at that moment,i realized that,it wasnt me who carried my party games. it was them who carried me,sure i won a lane(or at least break even),i did my job but it's not 6k/5k or even 4k level,i didnt know what time should you go roshan,i didnt understand what to do after winning my lane,i dont know how to farm efficiently,i dont know how to pressure enemies. i dont know how to keep my lead at all
pretty much what i did is just being "a space creator" to my friends,where at that time mid was 1v3 gaming and my friends carried me with their skills and telling me what to do (friends was 4k,4k9)
and being "a space creator" doesn't work on solo ranked games,where everyone is so fucking bad
so,need to change to become from "a space creator" to "i can do both,space creating and solo carrying"
ps:i was not fighting 6k teams for games won,it was only a 5k-6k mid player on party mmr/scrim
when vs 6k teams,we just got slaughtered
if you aren't trolling,i'm sure some of these will reach you or something
You might be misinterpreting things here. You would need to get a personality before I can attack it. Also, statements of fact are not attacks even if they are unpleasant.
I am a university student who is currently working on getting a masters in but yeah I have a lack of capacity for learning and reading comprehension
What, for real? A university student? You are in your twenties, from a well off background and you are in university, color me fucking surprised. Tell the class what discipline are you getting your masters in, we wanna have a laugh.
BTW, university student person, do you realise that being in the masters program says nothing about your capacity for perceiving reality? To get into masters program you just need to apply and have a decision made by the uni admin. And they can have other reasons than your success in learning things. For example, you can be a rich family moronic offspring and parents got tired of dealing with your moronicism so they sent you away to uni and made sure you stay there as long as possible by paying off the admin and thus, you get into the masters program.
I believe I posted this thread in the first place to highlight some of the issues with the MMR system, not to be defamed by some keyboard warrior
And I know that you actually failed to present any evidence of said issues and therefore opened yourself to fair if uncharitable criticism from keyboard warriors.
I do not need to prove that you are a 1k shitter, your MMR speaks for that. The burden of proof in regards to utterly ridiculous "inner 3k" statement is on you. You fail to present it again. Stomping 1k games is irrelevant, you get stomped as often as you stomp, you are incapable of counting (4/5 is so far away from reality it's not even funny), surviving as support in party games is irrelevant, because you don't do anything there, you sit there as CM with aura with 4 spammy heroes and they win for you. You could literally go to fountain after lvl 7 and storm would carry all the same.
And now we reach the point where I continue the original topic, as is required by my good-mannered nature.
I will repeat my question now (it only takes Ctrl+C Ctrl+V), are you ready, university person? Can you provide anything to corroborate your original assertion about being on the level of 3k players? Outside of your atrocious performance in those 4 games and getting carried in parties that you interpreted as doing well, but anyone with eyes saw as being a shitter? Anything that may be considered methodologically sound?
I feel compelled to disagree with "there are no issues with MMR system" statement. While the system is very simplistic and functional and therefore works like a clock, it has a very significant issue - some morons overthink it and start complaining instead of getting a grip either on life or on statistics.
i mean,even capitalism that has 9999 years of history and pretty good chance of success is still have issues sometimes,is there even a perfect system lol
that statement is true,but the problem is,is there even a better system?
like wat you say,complaining about the system is stupid lol i agree
complaining what you cant really change,is stupid too(unless you magically subdue valve)
@Feachairu Well, I tried to be charitable in the beginning, but somewhere around page 7 being the calm and serious voice of reason became boring, all the while OP continued to dodge and mislead the discussion after a clear demonstration of her incompetence via playing 4 games on 3k account. So as I am patiently awaiting a solid answer, or, more likely, a capitulation, I try keeping this entertaining for myself and, hopefully, for others.
Well, the capitalism comparison does not work. MMR is a very simple one note system. As long as there are a lot of players and the hardware/software works properly it is the perfect system for its purpose - matchmaking people with 50% expectation for victory. Capitalism on the other hand is quite complex and is not even designed, it has no clear purpose, so it's really hard to judge when it works well and when not.
i see,okay then
to be honest this thread is seriously getting annoying(not entertaining) and getting to the top of the forum most of the times
its like,you have a box that makes you curious that you cant help but to open but when you open it its just very dissapointing every single time lol
its ok if its becoming like "every game is winnable" (https://www.dotabuff.com/topics/2017-05-24-every-game-is-winnable?page=58) thread but seeing people arguing or fighting about it is pretty annoying
Did you check the previous page? There is a cute exchange with Hairy Indian Penis, play for fun had a few funny things to say and not to toot my own horn, but my post about Match ID 4126922571 (I'm even a bit proud of that one) is quite lighthearted and entertaining. Sometimes the thread turns into heavy bullshit, but that's the price you have to pay to enjoy quality shitposting.
SayingPleaseHelps went harder than MGK. Ended your whole fucking career
MGK? The irrelevent guy that lost the beef? Thats a pretty suitable comparison.
You might be misinterpreting things here. You would need to get a personality before I can attack it. Also, statements of fact are not attacks even if they are unpleasant.
Fact? The fact is you know nothing about me. Everyone who has added me from this thread has ended up liking me. Just because you have an unjustified hatred for me doenst mean your OPINIONS are fact.
What, for real? A university student? You are in your twenties, from a well off background and you are in university, color me fucking surprised. Tell the class what discipline are you getting your masters in, we wanna have a laugh.
Well off background? I would love to know how you cobbled that one together but it couldnt be further from the truth. I got a scholarship to do history from a university that helps students who are underprivileged. I fought fucking hard for a place in higher education and I find it funny that some internet troll who knows nothing about me would suggest otherwise based on zero evidence.
Well, I tried to be charitable in the beginning
Dont kid yourself. You were toxic from your first post.
h Hairy Indian Penis, play for fun had a few funny things to say and not to toot my own horn, but my post about Match ID 4126922571 (I'm even a bit proud of that one) is quite lighthearted and entertaining.
These are all examples of people in this thread being assholes as opposed to constructive.
if you aren't trolling,i'm sure some of these will reach you or something
Yus well I decided maybe I am part of the problem and some friends watched my games and I watched some online videos ~ I have definately seen improvements in my own gameplay and ability to carry in the past few weeks and have climbed 200mmr this week without playing much solo so I am happy about that. Also the people who watched the games were very useful, and whilst they said in general I am superior to the 1-2k meatheads in the bracket I have a lot to learn if im going to climb to 3k which is fine with me cause I am willing to learn if that means I can have a good time!
man OP is really thirsty for validation its just sad
I am thirsty for construction not validation. I dont need validation im perfectly happy. Infact the people in this thread that seek validation are the trolls who are desperately fishing for responses because their lives are sad and lonely.
i totally don't seek validation, i just see fit paraphrasing other's opinion on my gameplay to prove i totally dont belong in 1k bracket. its also the only "proof" i can provide that i supposedly belong in higher bracket
We are breaking the conditioning people! Embrace the dark side and explore your true self, the one that was obvious from the beginning to everyone except girl point hunters!
The fact is you know nothing about me
Well, there are quite some posts of yours here and they are something that I know about you. Good luck at uni with this level of understanding of reality. Time and time again you are presented with sound objective arguments:
You’re the only constant in all your games
if anything you said was true then boosting services wouldn't exist
If u cant carry a lost game with noobs (1k mmr ) U dont deserve to be matched with good players
in your 1k games there are 5 "retards" on the enemy team and 4 "retards" and you on your team. So the only way to not win all the time is if you are being a retard yourself
I mean you have 2 options,
1# somehow truly the system is unfair and the millions of players who have climbed out of 1k never existed
2# or you suck.
mmr represent your skill to win games in long run, more games you play more accurate it is. whats the point of all those pointles arguments so far ???? it doesnt matter at all if its about your mechanical skill ,or strategy or psychology or other shit like this. all that matter is the "end goal" . which is to win the fucking game of dota 2
And, of course, the best argument
you belong, belong in the league of legends
And your only answer is excuses (that I will not even dignify with a quote) for performing badly when the whole point of the thread is supposed to be about stopping performing badly in solo games, not excusing it. What uni are you in with this shit? History is all about learning from events. That chain of events shows quite clearly that either you have trouble reading or learning. It's one of the two and that is a matter of fact, unless, of course, we assume bad faith on your part, which we don't coz ANYTHING can be derailed by bad faith assumptions. Good luck at uni btw, you'll need it.
I got a scholarship to do history from a university that helps students who are underprivileged. I fought fucking hard for a place in higher education and I find it funny that some internet troll who knows nothing about me would suggest otherwise based on zero evidence.
So you are an affirmative action enrollment, huh? That makes sense. BTW, you can get to a uni that focuses on underprivileged kids while being rich yourself, even easier that way. I went off of you having enough disposable income to fund your dota cosmetics addiction. May be a fluke, could be some thirsty girl point hunters gifted those to you. Well, looky there, hundreds of rare compendium rewards in your inventory, still giftable for the most part. Somebody was compulsively buying battle pass levels. There's also somebody's PC specs in your Steam profile. Double 1080Ti Founders Edition? Zero evidence my ass. Assuming good faith, with those spendings it's clear you never had to struggle for food. And those things are fking obvious. What uni does value ability to think in their history (it's supposed to be a very analytical discipline) students so low? Also, 34% average game competion rate? The puzzle comes together.
Conspiracy theory time, notice the wording on that one.
Well off background? I would love to know how you cobbled that one together but it couldnt be further from the truth. I got a scholarship to do history from a university that helps students who are underprivileged. I fought fucking hard for a place in higher education
A neat little example of political speak right there. At no point do you outright call me wrong or admit coming from the undreprivileged background, you just got into a uni for one. And having to struggle to get to higher education is also quite necessary if you are dumb. And you are interested in how I "cobbled together" the truth. And with the current wealth gap between the rich and the rest of the population, the farthest from being just well off is actually super rich. You could very well be super rich and you would not have said a word of lie in that botched attempt to gain sympathy. Impressive. Too bad you managed to only get into history for your education. Can be me reading too much into this, but I opened with Alex Jones quote, so I guess I'm safe.
Dont kid yourself. You were toxic from your first post.
Well, some more evidence you can't read. Here is the opening for my first post in this thread:
While I disapprove of the pointless and somewhat cruel bashing based on low MMR, there is a point to bashing ppl who post these bullshit discussions again and again when the matter has been positively resolved countless times and the answer you seek is a mere google search away.
I start with a call to stop calling you a 1k tard before moving onto my actual criticism of your position, which I disagree with in its entirety, mind you. Most of my follow-up posts feature serious advice and sometimes are only serious advice
Yes I would not flame. It is utterly pointless. It serves only to distract you from the game. If someone is toxic you mute them. If you are toxic you mute yourself. At no point is complaining in the allchat about anyone doing (or not doing) anything in the game productive. So don't do that. At no point is flaming your team conducive to victory. So don't do it.
So what the fuck are you doing playing ranked MMR with anything less then full focus and then complaining about not climbing?
When you queue MMR it's supposed to be to test your peak DOTA performance. Wanna casual fun? Normal welcomes you. Wanna have casual fun faster? Turbo is there for you. Wanna climb MMR (as you stated in the OP)? Pull yourself together and focus when you play.
If you genuinely want to improve you need to focus on fixing a select few things, not broad actions. For example, Clinkz is extremely good at low MMR, because invisibility=invincibility and he has great building DMG. If you want to learn him start with bots, he has ridiculously bad BAT, so you will need to adjust to it. Then go to normal games and try to focus on splitpushing. Build deso as a first big item every time and always look for a lane to push. Never jungle or gank/fight, unless there is no lane that is safe to push. You will die a lot, but if you have a bit of capacity for learning it will teach you where the limits are for pushing real fast. Will also teach you to mute toxic shitters and hopefully mute self. And that's your road to 4k. Some ppl claim that even 6k fail to adress splitpush properly, but that must be wrong. After all, if there was such an easy way to climb, where are all these complaints coming from.
I even will have some more advice at the end of this post.
These are all examples of people in this thread being assholes as opposed to constructive.
They are entertaining though. And you can't really blame them for following your example in being assholes.
And finally, here we come to the More Excuses Town of Hell (METH)
Yus well I decided maybe I am part of the problem and some friends watched my games and I watched some online videos ~ I have definately seen improvements in my own gameplay and ability to carry in the past few weeks and have climbed 200mmr this week without playing much solo so I am happy about that. Also the people who watched the games were very useful, and whilst they said in general I am superior to the 1-2k meatheads in the bracket I have a lot to learn if im going to climb to 3k which is fine with me cause I am willing to learn if that means I can have a good time!
Nope! If you ever genuinely were to decide that you are a part of the problem you would not have added all of that "climbed 200mmr" "watched some online videos ~ I have definately seen improvements" "they said in general I am superior to the 1-2k meatheads" bullshit designed to make you look good. As a matter of fact, if you were to improve (not that you have shown any propensity for it) your results would decline first! Because to learn new things you need first to pick up new things and since they are new for you, you'd be shit at them for a while. You would see a decline in results before the climb starts, but of course, the only thing you need is a mediocrity award. Do it for real. You are the problem (not a part of it, entirety of it) and once you accept that your true MMR is way lower than you are and you are at 1k just coz you have been doing it for a long time, it would make it so much easier to learn and so much more rewarding to climb. Come on, you have Dark Souls and Boodborne(?) in your fave games, surely you did not miss what makes those games great?
Mandatory Section. Can you provide anything to corroborate your original assertion about being on the level of 3k players? Outside of your atrocious performance in those 4 games and getting carried in parties that you interpreted as doing well, but anyone with eyes saw as being a shitter? Anything that may be considered methodologically sound?
This is too immature for my serious post above, but I kinda have to do it.
I fought fucking hard for a place in higher education
We are all highly impressed that you fought for a place in higher education while fucking hard. If you were to actually tone down the fornication, maybe you would have ended in a better uni, or with a better discipline.
Also in your profile I noticed that you are a member of Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transexual Gamers. You should leave that lesbophobic/transphobic group at once, the correct order is LGBT, not GLBT and the correct spelling is "Transsexual", from "transition", not from a SW:TLJ actress Kelly Marie "I have a problem with this naming convention" Tran.
I really can't take anything you say seriously anymore sorry. You claim to be analytical but literally everything you write proves that you are just a jackass tbh.
And your only answer is excuses (that I will not even dignify with a quote) for performing badly when the whole point of the thread is supposed to be about stopping performing badly in solo games, not excusing it.
Whatever, people say excuses because most of the time there is a valid excuse,ll admit when its my fault such as the last necrophos game I played or the Mirana game where i was shit
So you are an affirmative action enrollment, huh? That makes sense. BTW, you can get to a uni that focuses on underprivileged kids while being rich yourself, even easier that way. I went off of you having enough disposable income to fund your dota cosmetics addiction. May be a fluke, could be some thirsty girl point hunters gifted those to you. Well, looky there, hundreds of rare compendium rewards in your inventory, still giftable for the most part. Somebody was compulsively buying battle pass levels. There's also somebody's PC specs in your Steam profile. Double 1080Ti Founders Edition? Zero evidence my ass. Assuming good faith, with those spendings it's clear you never had to struggle for food. And those things are fking obvious. What uni does value ability to think in their history (it's supposed to be a very analytical discipline) students so low? Also, 34% average game competion rate? The puzzle comes together.
This paragraph was the best of all. Lots of gems here.
So you are an affirmative action enrollment, huh?
No. I was recognised as having extenuating circumstances due to my upbringing and was given a uni place because I managed to get decent grades despite what I have been through. Also I did some research on this 'affirmative action enrollment' and it isnt even a process that occurs in my country. This country doesnt have issues with diversity and gender so you can forget that. Infact most university students here are women.
you can get to a uni that focuses on underprivileged kids while being rich yourself
Being fucking underprivileged is NOT compatible with being rich yourself by definition shit-for-brains.
I went off of you having enough disposable income to fund your dota cosmetics addiction. May be a fluke, could be some thirsty girl point hunters gifted those to you. Well, looky there, hundreds of rare compendium rewards in your inventory, still giftable for the most part. Somebody was compulsively buying battle pass levels.
I get a lot of levels gifted to me because people actually like me, and I buy some myself because I sometimes have the income... not like £200 is an obscene amount of money...
There's also somebody's PC specs in your Steam profile. Double 1080Ti Founders Edition? Zero evidence my ass. Assuming good faith, with those spendings it's clear you never had to struggle for food.
I struggled for 16 years of my life. How does being able to afford a computer with my hard earned money in the past year correlate to me coming from nothing? What fucking relevance does any of this even have to this thread? Just because you are most likely a basement dweller that has done nothing with their life doesnt mean you have to try and shit on mine.
Also, 34% average game completion rate? The puzzle comes together.
This is just hilarious. Completely irrelevant and a normal completion rate when you compile many games due to sales. I also play games with mods which disable achievements and play games such as Europa Universalis which would literally take thousands upon thousands of hours to complete in full. I dont even know why you would even talk about such a useless metric. But hey you are so analytical and intelligent and all of your arguments are logical right?
At no point do you outright call me wrong or admit coming from the undreprivileged background, you just got into a uni for one. And having to struggle to get to higher education is also quite necessary if you are dumb.
Ok. You are WRONG. Are you happy now? Cause I said it. That you are completely and utterly WRONG, and what you are saying is not only WRONG but downright offensive. I stuggled for higher education because people from my background are written off and looked down upon not because I am dumb. The fact that I am not dumb and my willingless to work hard is the exact reason why I got into a university at all.
And with the current wealth gap between the rich and the rest of the population, the farthest from being just well off is actually super rich. You could very well be super rich and you would not have said a word of lie in that botched attempt to gain sympathy. Impressive. Too bad you managed to only get into history for your education.
Yet another hilarious comment which doesnt even make sense since I literally said I was underprivileged. But hey, captain analysis is really good at deconstructing what I say apparently.
I start with a call to stop calling you a 1k tard before moving onto my actual criticism of your position, which I disagree with in its entirety, mind you. Most of my follow-up posts feature serious advice and sometimes are only serious advice
You quickly divulged into being a troll for no reason so frankly anything you said beforehand is moot.
Nope! If you ever genuinely were to decide that you are a part of the problem you would not have added all of that "climbed 200mmr" "watched some online videos ~ I have definately seen improvements" "they said in general I am superior to the 1-2k meatheads" bullshit designed to make you look good.
No. I added that in because it is the truth, unlike the trash you are peddling.
, if you were to improve (not that you have shown any propensity for it) your results would decline first! Because to learn new things you need first to pick up new things and since they are new for you, you'd be shit at them for a while.
Again, a false statement. If you improve you are IMPROVING. Hence an upturn in results. I already know how to play dota, the videos are about advanced mechanics and technique - its not like I need to relearn everything and play dota like ive never played it.
Mandatory Section. Can you provide anything to corroborate your original assertion about being on the level of 3k players? Outside of your atrocious performance in those 4 games and getting carried in parties that you interpreted as doing well, but anyone with eyes saw as being a shitter? Anything that may be considered methodologically sound?
At this stage I could produce a whole bunch of bullshit and call it methodologically sound and it would fit your style of being methodologically sound. But really I am past the point of trying to prove to you that I am 3k since nothing I can say would convince you even if it were good evidence such as the fact that I got my smurf to the border of the normal/high skill bracket after just 3 games of playing pos 1.
This is too immature for my serious post above, but I kinda have to do it.
If that was your idea of a mature serious post then boy you are no fit for the real world. The rest of the second post is so pathetic hat it isnt even worth talking about.
but I opened with Alex Jones quote, so I guess I'm safe.
Some more excuses, you are always right, that must have been a hard background to struggle with. You have not admitted your fault for the entirety of the 12 pages we have, you paid lipservice while working overtime to find some justification.
And of course we have university level arguments here: no quotes of mine to elaborate what you are talking about, no depersonalized arguments, no nothing, just handwaves, insults and opinionated excuses. What I provided as proof of your incapability to either read or learn is an observable fact. Enlighten me, what is your background that excuses so much and enables that level of twattery. Sounds like a pretty privileged background. (Please don't be "born with Down Syndrome")
"Affirmative action enrollment" refers to people getting their spot due to other than pure merit factors. Like extenuating circumstances you mentioned. Good research there.
Being fucking underprivileged is NOT compatible with being rich yourself by definition shit-for-brains.
But being enrolled into a university that focuses on underprivileged kids sure as shit is, non-toxic person that people like so much.
since I literally said I was underprivileged
I provided your quote. Here it is again
Well off background? I would love to know how you cobbled that one together but it couldnt be further from the truth. I got a scholarship to do history from a university that helps students who are underprivileged. I fought fucking hard for a place in higher education and I find it funny that some internet troll who knows nothing about me would suggest otherwise based on zero evidence.
Not a sign of direct admission, more signs of being incapable to read.
You quickly divulged into being a troll for no reason so frankly anything you said beforehand is moot.
So you admit being pointlessly accusatory when you said, and I quote
Dont kid yourself. You were toxic from your first post.
"No reason", huh? Yet you have been a shithead before the thread even started (there's your reason), so I would consider offering you 3 pages of advice-filled posts charitable enough. At some point you understand that the student is a moron and start enjoying the process for other reasons. Also by your logic everything you have ever said is moot, because you acted like a dick afterwards. University education in UK, enroll today to see you children struggle with breathing.
You are WRONG
Well, I'm happy to concede on your background. As a matter of fact, there was this "Conspiracy theory time" disclaimer to signify my lack of confidence in the matter to begin with. I will maintain that you are not underprivileged at this point in time though until you offer the specifics.
I added that in because it is the truth
But it is irrelevant to the topic. If your point was that you recognised your inadequacy, that should be the aim of the post, noting specific things you do wrong but are ready to learn about, asking about certain techniques that you lack, not triple patting yourself on the back because, "Oh my Gosh, i just flirted with the idea I'm at fault here". It may be true, but it is not relevant.
Again, a false statement. If you improve you are IMPROVING. Hence an upturn in results. I already know how to play dota, the videos are about advanced mechanics and technique - its not like I need to relearn everything and play dota like ive never played it
Gaining more confidence in the Down version here. People have been telling you all this fucking 12 page thread that your MMR and your ability to play DOTA are two different things. Of course if you are improving, you are getting better. At playing the game. But because you do the things you are improving at suboptimally and are focusing your attention on them instead of other things you are temporarily gonna get worse at winning the game. At gaining MMR. FFS, abstract thinking is supposed to develop in kids between the ages of 12 and 16, are you capable of recognizing that your "skill" and your MMR are two completely different entities? This is a legit learning disability I think, no surprise higher education is failing in UK. And yes, you have no idea how to play DOTA and you will need to relearn it from the ground up if you want to ever climb out of the trench. Because all the 3000+ hours you have been fostering bad habits by playing it wrong.
At this stage I could produce a whole bunch of bullshit and call it methodologically sound and it would fit your style of being methodologically sound. But really I am past the point of trying to prove to you that I am 3k since nothing I can say would convince you even if it were good evidence such as the fact that I got my smurf to the border of the normal/high skill bracket after just 3 games of playing pos 1.
Then fucking do it. Put your uni to shame. The question has been asked 4 times now an every time it's "Well, I could do it, but I won't even if that would validate my original claim". And no, it wouldn't be methodologically sound, you are incapable of reading and/or learning, no way you will even know what a scientific methodology is.
However, 5 is such a nice number. Here goes: Can you provide anything to corroborate your original assertion about being on the level of 3k players? Outside of your atrocious performance in those 4 games and getting carried in parties that you interpreted as doing well, but anyone with eyes saw as being a shitter? Anything that may be considered methodologically sound?
The majroty of what you wrote is just a continuous downhill spiral. It says a lot about how petty you are to be honest. I wont justify much of it with a response because its mainly crap like your previous irrelevancy-filled comment
h. You have not admitted your fault for the entirety of the 12 pages we have, you paid lipservice while working overtime to find some justification.
Honestly the situation has changed since the thread was made and I am now climbing games - basic evidence that I do not belong in the bracket. Now I am winning games at a rate that I would not have even have made this thread. In some ways it is redundant because I do no feel the same way as I did when i began it. I have also admitted several times that certain games were lost because of me and I have also admitted that there are areas that I can improve. That is an admission not lipservice.
What I provided as proof of your incapability to either read or learn is an observable fact. Enlighten me, what is your background that excuses so much and enables that level of twattery. Sounds like a pretty privileged background. (Please don't be "born with Down Syndrome")
Again more basic immaturity. This crap about being able to read or learn clearly has no basis in reality. Have you thought that I dont want to divulge into details about my background for good reason? My private life is PRIVATE and putting it lightly my early life was traumatic and not stuff I would want to discuss publicly on an Internet forum. I refer to me asking what relevance any of that has to this thread.
"Affirmative action enrollment" refers to people getting their spot due to other than pure merit factors. Like extenuating circumstances you mentioned. Good research there.
Not a sign of direct admission, more signs of being incapable to read.
Excuse me. If I write that I got a scholarship from a university that provides scholarships to people who are underprivileged then surely it doesnt take a genius to grasp that I was underprivileged. I find it very ironic that you constantly spin this retarded yarn about me being unable to read and learn(!), a hilarious claim in itself, when you are incapable of basic level inference. I can talk in simple English and spell everything out if that helps you grasp what I am saying.
Also by your logic everything you have ever said is moot, because you acted like a dick afterwards.
Not once have I acted like a dick in this thread other than in response to people such as yourself. I have been more than reasonable to people who have had constructive input and have even made a few friends from this thread.
University education in UK, enroll today to see you children struggle with breathing.
Yes, the country with the oldest, most influential and arguably well taught university system in the world. Students at the likes of Oxford, Cambridge, Durham and Imperial are definitely meatheads incapable of breath...
I will maintain that you are not underprivileged at this point in time though until you offer the specifics.
If you want my entire life story then you will have to add me because I dont see why that has to be made public... or why I even have to tell you at all because for the umpteenth time its completely irrelevant to anything.
But it is irrelevant to the topic. If your point was that you recognised your inadequacy, that should be the aim of the post, noting specific things you do wrong but are ready to learn about, asking about certain techniques that you lack, not triple patting yourself on the back because, "Oh my Gosh, i just flirted with the idea I'm at fault here". It may be true, but it is not relevant.
Well it wasnt the aim of the post since the aim of the post was to point out flaws with how calibration works and how players that arent 1k can get stuck in the bracket. I could make a whole thread about my flaws as a player but the truth is I am not 1k. Also since when did you care about the relevance of anything? Basically everything you have said recently has been completely irrelevant.
Gaining more confidence in the Down version here. People have been telling you all this fucking 12 page thread that your MMR and your ability to play DOTA are two different things. Of course if you are improving, you are getting better. At playing the game. But because you do the things you are improving at suboptimally and are focusing your attention on them instead of other things you are temporarily gonna get worse at winning the game. At gaining MMR. FFS, abstract thinking is supposed to develop in kids between the ages of 12 and 16, are you capable of recognizing that your "skill" and your MMR are two completely different entities? This is a legit learning disability I think, no surprise higher education is failing in UK.
Finally something mildly relevant to the topic, shame it is peppered with more playground insults and stupidity. The thing is that ones ability to play dota and there MMR should correlate with each-other, and that isnt necessary the case when people are shafted by the calibration system because they had very low legacy mmr from years ago. Also higher education in this country has improved massively in the last few decades - more students are getting degrees than ever and enrollment has gone up. I would love to see the basis for these wild claims to the contrary.
Then fucking do it. Put your uni to shame. The question has been asked 4 times now an every time it's "Well, I could do it, but I won't even if that would validate my original claim". And no, it wouldn't be methodologically sound, you are incapable of reading and/or learning, no way you will even know what a scientific methodology is.
Scientific methodology is a big part of my degree and was a big part of my Physics A level that I got an A in.
However, 5 is such a nice number. Here goes: Can you provide anything to corroborate your original assertion about being on the level of 3k players? Outside of your atrocious performance in those 4 games and getting carried in parties that you interpreted as doing well, but anyone with eyes saw as being a shitter? Anything that may be considered methodologically sound?
Why do you think my answer is going to change? Are you broken? No I cant fucking whisk up methodological evidence that im 3k in the same sense that you cant. I mean at surface level I would say there is nothing about your account that would suggest you play better than me. Sure you are in the high skill bracket but you have clearly plateaued. If I am gonna be really stupid and take a leaf out of your book by using useless metrics then I could also say that your records are unimpressive and in general are worse than mine as well. So can you prove that you are 3k?
It was nice of you not to reply to the parts of my response where I was correct beyond doubt btw. At least you aren't that lacking in common sense.
It was nice of you not to reply to the parts of my response where I was correct beyond doubt btw. At least you aren't that lacking in common sense.
You may want to examine your responses using this metric.
Not once have I acted like a dick in this thread other than in response to people such as yourself
That I will just let sink in. For a bit. Just a bit more.
A lot of kind and helpful people offered you in-game or psychological advice and coaching, their engagement in the topic and concern for your climb and you continuously handwaved their efforts and ignored all the advice, you narcissistic swearword.
This charade is getting tiring. I offer you your quotes as clear evidence of your demonstrated incapability to read/learn and instead of simply admitting that you acted like a doofus, it happens to the best of us sometimes, you insist that you were utterly perfect within confines of this thread and in your games of DOTA and when you weren't, it's justified with "Mommy they started first!". Truly the mindset of a university student. Sure Oxford and Cambridge were great in the past, but we live today and with this quality of applicants they are doomed to follow whatever sham educational facility you frequent.
You may want to check some of my early posts, I predicted your actions to a T, but for some reason I still tried. At this point it is clear that whatever refutations and observations anyone makes you will just try and dismiss with an insult, an excuse or a handwave. No matter how hard I'm pressing to make you genuinely admit any mistake out of hundreds made here or millions in-game, you always got a reason that either makes it acceptable or at least absolves you of any and all guilt.
Scientific methodology is a big part of my degree and was a big part of my Physics A level that I got an A in.
I'm sorry, but based on what has been demonstrated by you in this thread I do not believe you. Maybe you are in the same Dunning-Krueger spot about it as you are about your DOTA skills, I don't know, and frankly, there hardly can be any more spectacular failures of yours that can add to the picture here, so I won't bother.
Nobody cares what you feel, so stop relying on it in arguments, the fact that you even think feelings are relevant in any discussion tells you led a very pampered life, compared with an average human being.
Nobody cares what you think the world should be, people care what it is. So stop using your (very limited) worldview as an argument. MMR is what it is and no amount of whining and whinging and tantrum throwing is gonna change it.
Nobody cares about you trying to gain sympathy by alluding to your mysteriously horrible background, every person has their own tragedies that are as real or more (likely more, since you are living in a first world nation) than yours, so cut the crap.
Nobody cares about you being drunk, tilted, sleepy, exhausted or whatever else excuse you can come up with. When you go play a ranked game with 9 strangers you are expected to perform the best and no amount of thier shitty behaviour will excuse you disrespecting their time.
Why do you think my answer is going to change? Are you broken? No I cant fucking whisk up methodological evidence that im 3k in the same sense that you cant. I mean at surface level I would say there is nothing about your account that would suggest you play better than me. Sure you are in the high skill bracket but you have clearly plateaued
I'm thinking you might actually give an answer for once.
Where is the difference in the stats, lemme check, it's somewhere on the overview page, higher KDA with lower winrate% (in other words, I don't feed). You may want to compare those to some actually high MMR core player, notice the trend. But that's irrelevant. If I were to lose all of my calibrations this season and drop to 2k I would accept it and enjoy ez games while they last. I'm not the one creating threads about not being in my "true skill bracket"(tm).
So tell me now, do you still believe you are a 3k+ player that against the combined mankinds understanding of reality fails to consistently (that word is there specifically so your emotion driven self does not refer to your current trend as a legit climb) climb solo despite being awesome in every regard and do you have anything objective to offer as proof of that supposed fact?
Or are you ready to admit that your solo MMR of 1k and a bit is exactly where you belong and this whole thread is a scam and has nothing to do with an actual desire to improve? (You should pick this one, coz the first one suggests you are a legit retard incapable of putting your knowledge to work)
That I will just let sink in. For a bit. Just a bit more.
A lot of kind and helpful people offered you in-game or psychological advice and coaching, their engagement in the topic and concern for your climb and you continuously handwaved their efforts and ignored all the advice, you narcissistic swearword.
I added several people from this thread and have engaged their advice. As I said before -->
Also the people who watched the games were very useful, and whilst they said in general I am superior to the 1-2k meatheads in the bracket I have a lot to learn if im going to climb to 3k which is fine with me cause I am willing to learn if that means I can have a good time!
This charade is getting tiring. I offer you your quotes as clear evidence of your demonstrated incapability to read/learn and instead of simply admitting that you acted like a doofus, it happens to the best of us sometimes, you insist that you were utterly perfect within confines of this thread and in your games of DOTA and when you weren't, it's justified with "Mommy they started first!". .
No. I never insisted i was perfect. Infact I have said multiple times that I have much to learn and I consider myself to be a far from good dota player.
Truly the mindset of a university student.
I dont know what university students you have talked to (im guessing none), but I do not know anyone juvenile enough to truly behave in such a fashion.
Sure Oxford and Cambridge were great in the past, but we live today and with this quality of applicants they are doomed to follow whatever sham educational facility you frequent
Oxford is #1 globally. Cambridge is #2 globally. What are you even rambling about? Also underperforming universities are shut down in this country, there is no such thing as a 'sham' facility.
You may want to check some of my early posts, I predicted your actions to a T, but for some reason I still tried. At this point it is clear that whatever refutations and observations anyone makes you will just try and dismiss with an insult, an excuse or a handwave. No matter how hard I'm pressing to make you genuinely admit any mistake out of hundreds made here or millions in-game, you always got a reason that either makes it acceptable or at least absolves you of any and all guilt.
I admitted where I made mistakes and games where I did poorly. I am not going to admit mistakes if the 'mistakes' are nitpicking crap that makes no difference in normal skill games.
I'm sorry, but based on what has been demonstrated by you in this thread I do not believe you. Maybe you are in the same Dunning-Krueger spot about it as you are about your DOTA skills, I don't know, and frankly, there hardly can be any more spectacular failures of yours that can add to the picture here, so I won't bother.
More of the same crap here. The old dunning-kruger effect garbage that every insecure kid churns out - a phenomenon which isnt exactly applicable to dota in the same sense that it is applicable to academic fields anyway. Also the fact that I got strong grades in my sciences is obviously incompatible with the dunning-kruger effect, not that you would know much about it. Your misspelling of the effect is a good sign that u know very little about it.
Nobody cares what you feel, so stop relying on it in arguments, the fact that you even think feelings are relevant in any discussion tells you led a very pampered life, compared with an average human being.
The fact that you keep on following this frankly autistic line about me being 'pampered' or whatever is getting truly bizarre and probably says something about your own stability. Not only was I as far from papered as you can get but even if I was pampered so fucking what? What relevance does that have? Is it because you are trying to fabricate a reason for me being the way you choose to perceive me? Or is it a chip on your shoulder?
Nobody cares what you feel, so stop relying on it in arguments, the fact that you even think feelings are relevant in any discussion tells you led a very pampered life, compared with an average human being.
Nobody cares what you think the world should be, people care what it is. So stop using your (very limited) worldview as an argument. MMR is what it is and no amount of whining and whinging and tantrum throwing is gonna change it.
When did I ever discuss my own feelings and worldview in depth? I perhaps suggested that I am frustrated or tilted as a result of undercalibration, apart from that I have never really discussed my feelings. This has practically nothing to do with anything again and even if I was to mention how something makes me feel, so fucking what? Thats a normal part of conversation not that you would know shit about conversation or human empathy for that matter.
Nobody cares about you trying to gain sympathy by alluding to your mysteriously horrible background, every person has their own tragedies that are as real or more (likely more, since you are living in a first world nation) than yours, so cut the crap.
Well you clearly do since you are the one who keeps fucking bringing it up and introduced this bullshit about me being privileged in the first place. Ive said time and time again that its completely irrelevant and yet you persist like some kinda retard. By the way this is the absolute LAST time I address my background. Its got nothing to do with the topic and you seem to be incapable of grasping what I mean when I say that my upbringing was tragic so fuck it if you bring it up again im not going to entertain you.
If I were to lose all of my calibrations this season and drop to 2k I would accept it and enjoy ez games while they last. I'm not the one creating threads about not being in my "true skill bracket"(tm).
Good for you. Shame this isnt your thread isnt about you as much as you want it to be.
So tell me now, do you still believe you are a 3k+ player
Perhaps I am, perhaps I am not. I know I am capable of it if I put my mind to it and I have people who have told me they are willing to help me do so as well as people who were shocked when they found out my solo mmr because it isnt reflective of how I play. I am at the very least 2k currently.
do you have anything objective to offer as proof of that supposed fact?
Isnt it a bit of a double standard where I have to produce evidence for everything I say to someone who constantly spouts false accusations and presumptions based on little to no evidence?
Let's bump it to 6: Can you provide anything to corroborate your original assertion about being on the level of 3k players? Outside of your atrocious performance in those 4 games and getting carried in parties that you interpreted as doing well, but anyone with eyes saw as being a shitter? Anything that may be considered methodologically sound?
@ Vertoxity Well, thank you. Entertainment value for other readers is the most to be expected from this thread at this point. Glad to be of assistance. If the OP was not such a stuck up biatch they would have recognised that a lot of the things being said are clearly within the bounds of hilarious. Too bad when they do they just use it as a "valid" criticism of arguments instead of the way God intended.
Sometimes I shudder to think that these kinds of people are representing the leading world cultures, that that is what awaits the world as it tries to emulate the most successful, but then I remember the shit UK judiciary does on a regular basis in preparation for EU reunification or referendum rerun and I really can't hate them. Soon they will be back under the EU umbrella and the remnants of once proud nation on which the Sun never sets, that ruled the seas, set up trends and guided the world will be crushed under the boot of German Imperial Dream, no doubt punished for their insolense beyond any reason. And they will excuse that just as easily as they excuse any other of their inadequacies.
Anything that may be considered methodologically sound?
Please just shut the fuck up. You throw around that same sentance over and over again even though I have said over and over that my thought process isnt the same as it was in my original post. Your complete refusal to focus on anything else is a fantastic display of what can only be interpreted as autistic tendancies. You also seem to not grasp the fact that ive provided evidence as methodologlca as you are ever going to get in a VIDEO GAME. Hell I even said a while back
Why do you think my answer is going to change? Are you broken? No I cant fucking whisk up methodological evidence that im 3k in the same sense that you cant.
Yet you dont seem to get the fucking message no matter how much I try to drill it into your thick skull. Perhaps if it were possible to apply methodological evidence to a completely unscientific vocational topic then I would but until then...
On also Vertoxity and I are friends. Hes laughing at you, not with you. He thinks ur just as funny as I do.
And you fail to adress it again and again, while it is pertinent to the core discussion. It is so ez, just present an argument and watch it being destroyed.
He is one of those friends who you claimed named you higher than your rating, who then rushed to defend his credibility here by saying he meant by a couple hundred MMR at most and it was never close. I would like for him to confess his unwavering support for your cause himself, if you don't mind. Got bored with "He said" "She said" if you haven't noticed.
Can you provide anything to corroborate your original assertion about being on the level of 3k players? Outside of your atrocious performance in those 4 games and getting carried in parties that you interpreted as doing well, but anyone with eyes saw as being a shitter? Anything that may be considered methodologically sound?
i gave up on serious discussion with op after reading their first post
In hindsight that was a better option, but I guess I was hoping to resurrect old Playdota's Elo Hell thread. That one was way too good, with a 3k guy getting a 5k account and managing to keep it stable over 50 games, I think. All the Elo Hell haters were confused and some impressed by his ability to adapt to the situation, to the point he became a positive example in arguments. I guess I wanted for OP to be that, but she's too busy being dumb inflexible narcissistic swearword who fails to notice "/s" when it's right there floating in front of them and sometimes intersecting with their face.
I give up. You are either fucking retarded or a troll.
Reciprocity, look it up in the dictionary. Might want to check self-awareness as well, but that won't be of much use.
8 is a lucky number, symmetrical and all, let's check if it works, shall we? Can you provide anything to corroborate your original assertion about being on the level of 3k players? Outside of your atrocious performance in those 4 games and getting carried in parties that you interpreted as doing well, but anyone with eyes saw as being a shitter? Anything that may be considered methodologically sound?
Let's go for number 9, couple more and your inability to answer a simple question will rival my inability to disengage from an argument with a moron over these 12 pages. Can you provide anything to corroborate your original assertion about being on the level of 3k players? Outside of your atrocious performance in those 4 games and getting carried in parties that you interpreted as doing well, but anyone with eyes saw as being a shitter? Anything that may be considered methodologically sound?
Back then, I would keep whining in this forum about how horrible 2k-4k players are, from time to time I would ask “How to carry retards in this bracket” then people would reply stuff like “Have you tried destroying the enemy ancient”? Or “Git gud”
Also I dont know what are you trying to achieve by arguing with retards in this forum, dont you think that deleting this thread is the best action you can take to end these disputes?
Also I dont know what are you trying to achieve by arguing with retards in this forum, dont you think that deleting this thread is the best action you can take to end these disputes?
I am getting there believe me. Im keeping it atm cause I am still meeting great people on this thread! Shame that some people feel the need to be completely ridiculous.
Number 10, round and smooth, like the shape of OP's brain. At least you will learn some natural numbers, better than nothing I guess. Can you provide anything to corroborate your original assertion about being on the level of 3k players? Outside of your atrocious performance in those 4 games and getting carried in parties that you interpreted as doing well, but anyone with eyes saw as being a shitter? Anything that may be considered methodologically sound?
SayingPleaseHelps went harder than MGK. Ended your whole fucking career
wat the hell is so hard to just think can't 1v9 at any bracket=i'm not that good to become the next bracket
just practice those solo carry op heroes/solo carry support heroes,to carry your team
that's wat i'm feeling too now,i can't 1vs9 in 5k,so i practicing rightnow
i was like you before actually,i never played solo,hated it (heck i even got like only 199 solo ranked games now)
i played party with my friends,i beat 5-6ks at lane(when doing party mmr,5v5 scrims) [win some games too]
when my solo mmr is just 3500,and my party was 4444
i thought to myself too,i'm definitely a 5k player,or at least more
and i think that i definitely can get it easy,since i beat 5k 6ks already so i just dont do solo mmr anyway(since know i can get it)
then,medals come in
oh nice,i want to get that ancient medal(before party cant get)
started doing solo,it was a full streak from 3500-3900
afterwards,i hit a wall
no matter what i do,i will just win lose win lose win lose win lose
then,i just scrapped thinking of whatever of being me 6k or 5k,i got stuck in a friggin 3,9k for goodness sake a 5k player can solo carry my games,a fucking miracle can solo carry my games,a booster can definitely win all my games
WHY
I
CANT?
WHY I'M SO WEAK
faced reality,dropped those thinking that i'm good. read guides again that i read before,practiced them,watched alot of replays
at that moment,i realized that,it wasnt me who carried my party games. it was them who carried me,sure i won a lane(or at least break even),i did my job but it's not 6k/5k or even 4k level,i didnt know what time should you go roshan,i didnt understand what to do after winning my lane,i dont know how to farm efficiently,i dont know how to pressure enemies. i dont know how to keep my lead at all
pretty much what i did is just being "a space creator" to my friends,where at that time mid was 1v3 gaming and my friends carried me with their skills and telling me what to do (friends was 4k,4k9)
and being "a space creator" doesn't work on solo ranked games,where everyone is so fucking bad
so,need to change to become from "a space creator" to "i can do both,space creating and solo carrying"
ps:i was not fighting 6k teams for games won,it was only a 5k-6k mid player on party mmr/scrim
when vs 6k teams,we just got slaughtered
if you aren't trolling,i'm sure some of these will reach you or something
BTW, university student person, do you realise that being in the masters program says nothing about your capacity for perceiving reality? To get into masters program you just need to apply and have a decision made by the uni admin. And they can have other reasons than your success in learning things. For example, you can be a rich family moronic offspring and parents got tired of dealing with your moronicism so they sent you away to uni and made sure you stay there as long as possible by paying off the admin and thus, you get into the masters program.
And I know that you actually failed to present any evidence of said issues and therefore opened yourself to fair if uncharitable criticism from keyboard warriors.I do not need to prove that you are a 1k shitter, your MMR speaks for that. The burden of proof in regards to utterly ridiculous "inner 3k" statement is on you. You fail to present it again. Stomping 1k games is irrelevant, you get stomped as often as you stomp, you are incapable of counting (4/5 is so far away from reality it's not even funny), surviving as support in party games is irrelevant, because you don't do anything there, you sit there as CM with aura with 4 spammy heroes and they win for you. You could literally go to fountain after lvl 7 and storm would carry all the same.
And now we reach the point where I continue the original topic, as is required by my good-mannered nature.
I will repeat my question now (it only takes Ctrl+C Ctrl+V), are you ready, university person? Can you provide anything to corroborate your original assertion about being on the level of 3k players? Outside of your atrocious performance in those 4 games and getting carried in parties that you interpreted as doing well, but anyone with eyes saw as being a shitter? Anything that may be considered methodologically sound?
^stop with the insults,try to discuss normally lol
I feel compelled to disagree with "there are no issues with MMR system" statement. While the system is very simplistic and functional and therefore works like a clock, it has a very significant issue - some morons overthink it and start complaining instead of getting a grip either on life or on statistics.
i mean,even capitalism that has 9999 years of history and pretty good chance of success is still have issues sometimes,is there even a perfect system lol
that statement is true,but the problem is,is there even a better system?
like wat you say,complaining about the system is stupid lol i agree
complaining what you cant really change,is stupid too(unless you magically subdue valve)
@Feachairu Well, I tried to be charitable in the beginning, but somewhere around page 7 being the calm and serious voice of reason became boring, all the while OP continued to dodge and mislead the discussion after a clear demonstration of her incompetence via playing 4 games on 3k account. So as I am patiently awaiting a solid answer, or, more likely, a capitulation, I try keeping this entertaining for myself and, hopefully, for others.
Well, the capitalism comparison does not work. MMR is a very simple one note system. As long as there are a lot of players and the hardware/software works properly it is the perfect system for its purpose - matchmaking people with 50% expectation for victory. Capitalism on the other hand is quite complex and is not even designed, it has no clear purpose, so it's really hard to judge when it works well and when not.
i see,okay then
to be honest this thread is seriously getting annoying(not entertaining) and getting to the top of the forum most of the times
its like,you have a box that makes you curious that you cant help but to open but when you open it its just very dissapointing every single time lol
its ok if its becoming like "every game is winnable" (https://www.dotabuff.com/topics/2017-05-24-every-game-is-winnable?page=58) thread but seeing people arguing or fighting about it is pretty annoying
ah ok,i'm suck at giving examples anyway
Did you check the previous page? There is a cute exchange with Hairy Indian Penis, play for fun had a few funny things to say and not to toot my own horn, but my post about Match ID 4126922571 (I'm even a bit proud of that one) is quite lighthearted and entertaining. Sometimes the thread turns into heavy bullshit, but that's the price you have to pay to enjoy quality shitposting.
i see i see,i didnt read it but let me check later
guess i'm just not into shitposting lol,well if it gives fun for you all wynaut
Why won’t she love me? Am I that ugly?
she just loves herself too much, its not ur fault
Kramer is that you??
I want to play dota rn but i need to work :(
Well off background? I would love to know how you cobbled that one together but it couldnt be further from the truth. I got a scholarship to do history from a university that helps students who are underprivileged. I fought fucking hard for a place in higher education and I find it funny that some internet troll who knows nothing about me would suggest otherwise based on zero evidence.
Dont kid yourself. You were toxic from your first post. These are all examples of people in this thread being assholes as opposed to constructive. Yus well I decided maybe I am part of the problem and some friends watched my games and I watched some online videos ~ I have definately seen improvements in my own gameplay and ability to carry in the past few weeks and have climbed 200mmr this week without playing much solo so I am happy about that. Also the people who watched the games were very useful, and whilst they said in general I am superior to the 1-2k meatheads in the bracket I have a lot to learn if im going to climb to 3k which is fine with me cause I am willing to learn if that means I can have a good time!
man OP is really thirsty for validation its just sad
~parmaviolets
nice,happy to hear that
We are breaking the conditioning people! Embrace the dark side and explore your true self, the one that was obvious from the beginning to everyone except girl point hunters!
Well, there are quite some posts of yours here and they are something that I know about you. Good luck at uni with this level of understanding of reality. Time and time again you are presented with sound objective arguments:And, of course, the best argument
And your only answer is excuses (that I will not even dignify with a quote) for performing badly when the whole point of the thread is supposed to be about stopping performing badly in solo games, not excusing it. What uni are you in with this shit? History is all about learning from events. That chain of events shows quite clearly that either you have trouble reading or learning. It's one of the two and that is a matter of fact, unless, of course, we assume bad faith on your part, which we don't coz ANYTHING can be derailed by bad faith assumptions. Good luck at uni btw, you'll need it.
So you are an affirmative action enrollment, huh? That makes sense. BTW, you can get to a uni that focuses on underprivileged kids while being rich yourself, even easier that way. I went off of you having enough disposable income to fund your dota cosmetics addiction. May be a fluke, could be some thirsty girl point hunters gifted those to you. Well, looky there, hundreds of rare compendium rewards in your inventory, still giftable for the most part. Somebody was compulsively buying battle pass levels. There's also somebody's PC specs in your Steam profile. Double 1080Ti Founders Edition? Zero evidence my ass. Assuming good faith, with those spendings it's clear you never had to struggle for food. And those things are fking obvious. What uni does value ability to think in their history (it's supposed to be a very analytical discipline) students so low? Also, 34% average game competion rate? The puzzle comes together.Conspiracy theory time, notice the wording on that one.
A neat little example of political speak right there. At no point do you outright call me wrong or admit coming from the undreprivileged background, you just got into a uni for one. And having to struggle to get to higher education is also quite necessary if you are dumb. And you are interested in how I "cobbled together" the truth. And with the current wealth gap between the rich and the rest of the population, the farthest from being just well off is actually super rich. You could very well be super rich and you would not have said a word of lie in that botched attempt to gain sympathy. Impressive. Too bad you managed to only get into history for your education. Can be me reading too much into this, but I opened with Alex Jones quote, so I guess I'm safe. Well, some more evidence you can't read. Here is the opening for my first post in this thread: I start with a call to stop calling you a 1k tard before moving onto my actual criticism of your position, which I disagree with in its entirety, mind you. Most of my follow-up posts feature serious advice and sometimes are only serious adviceI even will have some more advice at the end of this post. They are entertaining though. And you can't really blame them for following your example in being assholes.
And finally, here we come to the More Excuses Town of Hell (METH)
Nope! If you ever genuinely were to decide that you are a part of the problem you would not have added all of that "climbed 200mmr" "watched some online videos ~ I have definately seen improvements" "they said in general I am superior to the 1-2k meatheads" bullshit designed to make you look good. As a matter of fact, if you were to improve (not that you have shown any propensity for it) your results would decline first! Because to learn new things you need first to pick up new things and since they are new for you, you'd be shit at them for a while. You would see a decline in results before the climb starts, but of course, the only thing you need is a mediocrity award. Do it for real. You are the problem (not a part of it, entirety of it) and once you accept that your true MMR is way lower than you are and you are at 1k just coz you have been doing it for a long time, it would make it so much easier to learn and so much more rewarding to climb. Come on, you have Dark Souls and Boodborne(?) in your fave games, surely you did not miss what makes those games great?
Mandatory Section. Can you provide anything to corroborate your original assertion about being on the level of 3k players? Outside of your atrocious performance in those 4 games and getting carried in parties that you interpreted as doing well, but anyone with eyes saw as being a shitter? Anything that may be considered methodologically sound?
This is too immature for my serious post above, but I kinda have to do it.
We are all highly impressed that you fought for a place in higher education while fucking hard. If you were to actually tone down the fornication, maybe you would have ended in a better uni, or with a better discipline.Also in your profile I noticed that you are a member of Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transexual Gamers. You should leave that lesbophobic/transphobic group at once, the correct order is LGBT, not GLBT and the correct spelling is "Transsexual", from "transition", not from a SW:TLJ actress Kelly Marie "I have a problem with this naming convention" Tran.
I really can't take anything you say seriously anymore sorry. You claim to be analytical but literally everything you write proves that you are just a jackass tbh.
Whatever, people say excuses because most of the time there is a valid excuse,ll admit when its my fault such as the last necrophos game I played or the Mirana game where i was shit This paragraph was the best of all. Lots of gems here.No. I was recognised as having extenuating circumstances due to my upbringing and was given a uni place because I managed to get decent grades despite what I have been through. Also I did some research on this 'affirmative action enrollment' and it isnt even a process that occurs in my country. This country doesnt have issues with diversity and gender so you can forget that. Infact most university students here are women.
Being fucking underprivileged is NOT compatible with being rich yourself by definition shit-for-brains.
I get a lot of levels gifted to me because people actually like me, and I buy some myself because I sometimes have the income... not like £200 is an obscene amount of money...
I struggled for 16 years of my life. How does being able to afford a computer with my hard earned money in the past year correlate to me coming from nothing? What fucking relevance does any of this even have to this thread? Just because you are most likely a basement dweller that has done nothing with their life doesnt mean you have to try and shit on mine.
This is just hilarious. Completely irrelevant and a normal completion rate when you compile many games due to sales. I also play games with mods which disable achievements and play games such as Europa Universalis which would literally take thousands upon thousands of hours to complete in full. I dont even know why you would even talk about such a useless metric. But hey you are so analytical and intelligent and all of your arguments are logical right?
Ok. You are WRONG. Are you happy now? Cause I said it. That you are completely and utterly WRONG, and what you are saying is not only WRONG but downright offensive. I stuggled for higher education because people from my background are written off and looked down upon not because I am dumb. The fact that I am not dumb and my willingless to work hard is the exact reason why I got into a university at all.
Yet another hilarious comment which doesnt even make sense since I literally said I was underprivileged. But hey, captain analysis is really good at deconstructing what I say apparently.
You quickly divulged into being a troll for no reason so frankly anything you said beforehand is moot. No. I added that in because it is the truth, unlike the trash you are peddling.
Again, a false statement. If you improve you are IMPROVING. Hence an upturn in results. I already know how to play dota, the videos are about advanced mechanics and technique - its not like I need to relearn everything and play dota like ive never played it. At this stage I could produce a whole bunch of bullshit and call it methodologically sound and it would fit your style of being methodologically sound. But really I am past the point of trying to prove to you that I am 3k since nothing I can say would convince you even if it were good evidence such as the fact that I got my smurf to the border of the normal/high skill bracket after just 3 games of playing pos 1. If that was your idea of a mature serious post then boy you are no fit for the real world. The rest of the second post is so pathetic hat it isnt even worth talking about. Ah that explains everything.
Some more excuses, you are always right, that must have been a hard background to struggle with. You have not admitted your fault for the entirety of the 12 pages we have, you paid lipservice while working overtime to find some justification.
And of course we have university level arguments here: no quotes of mine to elaborate what you are talking about, no depersonalized arguments, no nothing, just handwaves, insults and opinionated excuses. What I provided as proof of your incapability to either read or learn is an observable fact. Enlighten me, what is your background that excuses so much and enables that level of twattery. Sounds like a pretty privileged background. (Please don't be "born with Down Syndrome")
"Affirmative action enrollment" refers to people getting their spot due to other than pure merit factors. Like extenuating circumstances you mentioned. Good research there.
But being enrolled into a university that focuses on underprivileged kids sure as shit is, non-toxic person that people like so much. I provided your quote. Here it is again Not a sign of direct admission, more signs of being incapable to read. So you admit being pointlessly accusatory when you said, and I quote "No reason", huh? Yet you have been a shithead before the thread even started (there's your reason), so I would consider offering you 3 pages of advice-filled posts charitable enough. At some point you understand that the student is a moron and start enjoying the process for other reasons. Also by your logic everything you have ever said is moot, because you acted like a dick afterwards. University education in UK, enroll today to see you children struggle with breathing. Well, I'm happy to concede on your background. As a matter of fact, there was this "Conspiracy theory time" disclaimer to signify my lack of confidence in the matter to begin with. I will maintain that you are not underprivileged at this point in time though until you offer the specifics. But it is irrelevant to the topic. If your point was that you recognised your inadequacy, that should be the aim of the post, noting specific things you do wrong but are ready to learn about, asking about certain techniques that you lack, not triple patting yourself on the back because, "Oh my Gosh, i just flirted with the idea I'm at fault here". It may be true, but it is not relevant. Gaining more confidence in the Down version here. People have been telling you all this fucking 12 page thread that your MMR and your ability to play DOTA are two different things. Of course if you are improving, you are getting better. At playing the game. But because you do the things you are improving at suboptimally and are focusing your attention on them instead of other things you are temporarily gonna get worse at winning the game. At gaining MMR. FFS, abstract thinking is supposed to develop in kids between the ages of 12 and 16, are you capable of recognizing that your "skill" and your MMR are two completely different entities? This is a legit learning disability I think, no surprise higher education is failing in UK. And yes, you have no idea how to play DOTA and you will need to relearn it from the ground up if you want to ever climb out of the trench. Because all the 3000+ hours you have been fostering bad habits by playing it wrong. Then fucking do it. Put your uni to shame. The question has been asked 4 times now an every time it's "Well, I could do it, but I won't even if that would validate my original claim". And no, it wouldn't be methodologically sound, you are incapable of reading and/or learning, no way you will even know what a scientific methodology is.However, 5 is such a nice number. Here goes: Can you provide anything to corroborate your original assertion about being on the level of 3k players? Outside of your atrocious performance in those 4 games and getting carried in parties that you interpreted as doing well, but anyone with eyes saw as being a shitter? Anything that may be considered methodologically sound?
I’m no troll. Just a lonely man looking for love.
Well, you chose the wrong mark mate. She's too pinkhaired-GLBT-gamery for you.
The majroty of what you wrote is just a continuous downhill spiral. It says a lot about how petty you are to be honest. I wont justify much of it with a response because its mainly crap like your previous irrelevancy-filled comment
Honestly the situation has changed since the thread was made and I am now climbing games - basic evidence that I do not belong in the bracket. Now I am winning games at a rate that I would not have even have made this thread. In some ways it is redundant because I do no feel the same way as I did when i began it. I have also admitted several times that certain games were lost because of me and I have also admitted that there are areas that I can improve. That is an admission not lipservice. Again more basic immaturity. This crap about being able to read or learn clearly has no basis in reality. Have you thought that I dont want to divulge into details about my background for good reason? My private life is PRIVATE and putting it lightly my early life was traumatic and not stuff I would want to discuss publicly on an Internet forum. I refer to me asking what relevance any of that has to this thread.No. AAE is aimed at students of under-represented ethnic and gender background. It has very little to do with person privilege, and as a white person AAE would discriminate against me if anything. It has nothing to do with my extenuating circumstance. Here are some useful articles. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/04/affirmative-action-california-black-hispanic-students
https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018/07/07/626500660/everything-that-s-going-on-with-race-ethnicity-and-school-admissions-right-now
https://www.jstor.org/stable/40042986?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents Excuse me. If I write that I got a scholarship from a university that provides scholarships to people who are underprivileged then surely it doesnt take a genius to grasp that I was underprivileged. I find it very ironic that you constantly spin this retarded yarn about me being unable to read and learn(!), a hilarious claim in itself, when you are incapable of basic level inference. I can talk in simple English and spell everything out if that helps you grasp what I am saying.
Not once have I acted like a dick in this thread other than in response to people such as yourself. I have been more than reasonable to people who have had constructive input and have even made a few friends from this thread.
Yes, the country with the oldest, most influential and arguably well taught university system in the world. Students at the likes of Oxford, Cambridge, Durham and Imperial are definitely meatheads incapable of breath...
If you want my entire life story then you will have to add me because I dont see why that has to be made public... or why I even have to tell you at all because for the umpteenth time its completely irrelevant to anything.
Well it wasnt the aim of the post since the aim of the post was to point out flaws with how calibration works and how players that arent 1k can get stuck in the bracket. I could make a whole thread about my flaws as a player but the truth is I am not 1k. Also since when did you care about the relevance of anything? Basically everything you have said recently has been completely irrelevant.
Finally something mildly relevant to the topic, shame it is peppered with more playground insults and stupidity. The thing is that ones ability to play dota and there MMR should correlate with each-other, and that isnt necessary the case when people are shafted by the calibration system because they had very low legacy mmr from years ago. Also higher education in this country has improved massively in the last few decades - more students are getting degrees than ever and enrollment has gone up. I would love to see the basis for these wild claims to the contrary.
Scientific methodology is a big part of my degree and was a big part of my Physics A level that I got an A in.
Why do you think my answer is going to change? Are you broken? No I cant fucking whisk up methodological evidence that im 3k in the same sense that you cant. I mean at surface level I would say there is nothing about your account that would suggest you play better than me. Sure you are in the high skill bracket but you have clearly plateaued. If I am gonna be really stupid and take a leaf out of your book by using useless metrics then I could also say that your records are unimpressive and in general are worse than mine as well. So can you prove that you are 3k?
It was nice of you not to reply to the parts of my response where I was correct beyond doubt btw. At least you aren't that lacking in common sense.
this is the longest beef in dotabuff history
That I will just let sink in. For a bit. Just a bit more.
A lot of kind and helpful people offered you in-game or psychological advice and coaching, their engagement in the topic and concern for your climb and you continuously handwaved their efforts and ignored all the advice, you narcissistic swearword.
This charade is getting tiring. I offer you your quotes as clear evidence of your demonstrated incapability to read/learn and instead of simply admitting that you acted like a doofus, it happens to the best of us sometimes, you insist that you were utterly perfect within confines of this thread and in your games of DOTA and when you weren't, it's justified with "Mommy they started first!". Truly the mindset of a university student. Sure Oxford and Cambridge were great in the past, but we live today and with this quality of applicants they are doomed to follow whatever sham educational facility you frequent.
You may want to check some of my early posts, I predicted your actions to a T, but for some reason I still tried. At this point it is clear that whatever refutations and observations anyone makes you will just try and dismiss with an insult, an excuse or a handwave. No matter how hard I'm pressing to make you genuinely admit any mistake out of hundreds made here or millions in-game, you always got a reason that either makes it acceptable or at least absolves you of any and all guilt.
I'm sorry, but based on what has been demonstrated by you in this thread I do not believe you. Maybe you are in the same Dunning-Krueger spot about it as you are about your DOTA skills, I don't know, and frankly, there hardly can be any more spectacular failures of yours that can add to the picture here, so I won't bother.Nobody cares what you feel, so stop relying on it in arguments, the fact that you even think feelings are relevant in any discussion tells you led a very pampered life, compared with an average human being.
Nobody cares what you think the world should be, people care what it is. So stop using your (very limited) worldview as an argument. MMR is what it is and no amount of whining and whinging and tantrum throwing is gonna change it.
Nobody cares about you trying to gain sympathy by alluding to your mysteriously horrible background, every person has their own tragedies that are as real or more (likely more, since you are living in a first world nation) than yours, so cut the crap.
Nobody cares about you being drunk, tilted, sleepy, exhausted or whatever else excuse you can come up with. When you go play a ranked game with 9 strangers you are expected to perform the best and no amount of thier shitty behaviour will excuse you disrespecting their time.
I'm thinking you might actually give an answer for once.Where is the difference in the stats, lemme check, it's somewhere on the overview page, higher KDA with lower winrate% (in other words, I don't feed). You may want to compare those to some actually high MMR core player, notice the trend. But that's irrelevant. If I were to lose all of my calibrations this season and drop to 2k I would accept it and enjoy ez games while they last. I'm not the one creating threads about not being in my "true skill bracket"(tm).
So tell me now, do you still believe you are a 3k+ player that against the combined mankinds understanding of reality fails to consistently (that word is there specifically so your emotion driven self does not refer to your current trend as a legit climb) climb solo despite being awesome in every regard and do you have anything objective to offer as proof of that supposed fact?
Or are you ready to admit that your solo MMR of 1k and a bit is exactly where you belong and this whole thread is a scam and has nothing to do with an actual desire to improve? (You should pick this one, coz the first one suggests you are a legit retard incapable of putting your knowledge to work)
i gotta say i am impressed by your mental fortitude man, i like you. i gave up on serious discussion with op after reading their first post.
The fact that you keep on following this frankly autistic line about me being 'pampered' or whatever is getting truly bizarre and probably says something about your own stability. Not only was I as far from papered as you can get but even if I was pampered so fucking what? What relevance does that have? Is it because you are trying to fabricate a reason for me being the way you choose to perceive me? Or is it a chip on your shoulder?
When did I ever discuss my own feelings and worldview in depth? I perhaps suggested that I am frustrated or tilted as a result of undercalibration, apart from that I have never really discussed my feelings. This has practically nothing to do with anything again and even if I was to mention how something makes me feel, so fucking what? Thats a normal part of conversation not that you would know shit about conversation or human empathy for that matter. Well you clearly do since you are the one who keeps fucking bringing it up and introduced this bullshit about me being privileged in the first place. Ive said time and time again that its completely irrelevant and yet you persist like some kinda retard. By the way this is the absolute LAST time I address my background. Its got nothing to do with the topic and you seem to be incapable of grasping what I mean when I say that my upbringing was tragic so fuck it if you bring it up again im not going to entertain you. Good for you. Shame this isnt your thread isnt about you as much as you want it to be. Perhaps I am, perhaps I am not. I know I am capable of it if I put my mind to it and I have people who have told me they are willing to help me do so as well as people who were shocked when they found out my solo mmr because it isnt reflective of how I play. I am at the very least 2k currently. Isnt it a bit of a double standard where I have to produce evidence for everything I say to someone who constantly spouts false accusations and presumptions based on little to no evidence?
This is ridiculous. I can't believe what's happening here. Keep it going, I'm enjoying it
Let's bump it to 6: Can you provide anything to corroborate your original assertion about being on the level of 3k players? Outside of your atrocious performance in those 4 games and getting carried in parties that you interpreted as doing well, but anyone with eyes saw as being a shitter? Anything that may be considered methodologically sound?
@ Vertoxity Well, thank you. Entertainment value for other readers is the most to be expected from this thread at this point. Glad to be of assistance. If the OP was not such a stuck up biatch they would have recognised that a lot of the things being said are clearly within the bounds of hilarious. Too bad when they do they just use it as a "valid" criticism of arguments instead of the way God intended.
Sometimes I shudder to think that these kinds of people are representing the leading world cultures, that that is what awaits the world as it tries to emulate the most successful, but then I remember the shit UK judiciary does on a regular basis in preparation for EU reunification or referendum rerun and I really can't hate them. Soon they will be back under the EU umbrella and the remnants of once proud nation on which the Sun never sets, that ruled the seas, set up trends and guided the world will be crushed under the boot of German Imperial Dream, no doubt punished for their insolense beyond any reason. And they will excuse that just as easily as they excuse any other of their inadequacies.
On also Vertoxity and I are friends. Hes laughing at you, not with you. He thinks ur just as funny as I do.
And you fail to adress it again and again, while it is pertinent to the core discussion. It is so ez, just present an argument and watch it being destroyed.
He is one of those friends who you claimed named you higher than your rating, who then rushed to defend his credibility here by saying he meant by a couple hundred MMR at most and it was never close. I would like for him to confess his unwavering support for your cause himself, if you don't mind. Got bored with "He said" "She said" if you haven't noticed.
Can you provide anything to corroborate your original assertion about being on the level of 3k players? Outside of your atrocious performance in those 4 games and getting carried in parties that you interpreted as doing well, but anyone with eyes saw as being a shitter? Anything that may be considered methodologically sound?
I give up. You are either fucking retarded or a troll.
@ play for fun
In hindsight that was a better option, but I guess I was hoping to resurrect old Playdota's Elo Hell thread. That one was way too good, with a 3k guy getting a 5k account and managing to keep it stable over 50 games, I think. All the Elo Hell haters were confused and some impressed by his ability to adapt to the situation, to the point he became a positive example in arguments. I guess I wanted for OP to be that, but she's too busy being dumb inflexible narcissistic swearword who fails to notice "/s" when it's right there floating in front of them and sometimes intersecting with their face.
8 is a lucky number, symmetrical and all, let's check if it works, shall we? Can you provide anything to corroborate your original assertion about being on the level of 3k players? Outside of your atrocious performance in those 4 games and getting carried in parties that you interpreted as doing well, but anyone with eyes saw as being a shitter? Anything that may be considered methodologically sound?
I hope you realise everytime you repeat that you just further reinforce the fact that you are an imbecile btw.
Let's go for number 9, couple more and your inability to answer a simple question will rival my inability to disengage from an argument with a moron over these 12 pages. Can you provide anything to corroborate your original assertion about being on the level of 3k players? Outside of your atrocious performance in those 4 games and getting carried in parties that you interpreted as doing well, but anyone with eyes saw as being a shitter? Anything that may be considered methodologically sound?
Back then, I would keep whining in this forum about how horrible 2k-4k players are, from time to time I would ask “How to carry retards in this bracket” then people would reply stuff like “Have you tried destroying the enemy ancient”? Or “Git gud”
Also I dont know what are you trying to achieve by arguing with retards in this forum, dont you think that deleting this thread is the best action you can take to end these disputes?
Im not even reading the paragraphs anymore.
Just kiss and make up already it's breaking my heart
Don’t dont delete, show us titties
^ what the penis guy said
this thread should be stickied for all of eternity
Number 10, round and smooth, like the shape of OP's brain. At least you will learn some natural numbers, better than nothing I guess. Can you provide anything to corroborate your original assertion about being on the level of 3k players? Outside of your atrocious performance in those 4 games and getting carried in parties that you interpreted as doing well, but anyone with eyes saw as being a shitter? Anything that may be considered methodologically sound?
oh my god OP just tsay no he'll leave you alone for good lmaoo
Leave op alone!!!! You will scare her away and no titties :(