General Discussion

General DiscussionHow could I have carried this shitshow?

How could I have carried this shitshow? in General Discussion
.
.

    https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/5490674672
    It's my latest gauntlet game, in which I was matched with 2 guardians lmao. I was laning with Warlock vs Mars and Disruptor, asked him to use heal defensively 'cause I wanted to exploit it and go more aggressive to zone them out since Disruptor is annoying as fuck in lane. Needless to say he kept using it on the enemies when he wasn't directly afking in the trees sapping exp. Should I have jungled? Bot was a mess, Lycan and NP fed so many kills so fast, I think NP alone died 4-5 times in the first 10 minutes. So what they did, they both went jungling and NP got midas. Should I have tped bot to farm vs MK instead of top? Drow lost mid to Dusa, didn't pay too much attention to that lane but I just saw her being right clicked to death and her brainlessly weakly right clicking back and had to fucking ping her to go back. After a slightly sub par laning phase in terms of networth, slightly just because we got their t1 tower, I tried to jungle but I couldn't 'cause I had Lycan, NP and Drow to share all the camps with. I most likely should have gone for bkb instead of mkb and I'm not sure about diffusal either, my Lycan popped up with one aswell. I know blink isn't used anymore on Ursa but (counter)initiating is one of the things I can do best and like the most in this game, plus I needed an intermediate item to be able to do that, couldn't wait ages to farm abyssal, so I went for blink + mkb vs PA. So, hooooow in the holy universe could I have carried this?

    mhmm

      you are at 3k average game, you want some fast thoughts?
      1) get better at the game so u can carry these types of games
      2) wtf is that ursa item and skill build, generaly very bad ahAHahAHahA just go bf rush, and outfarm everyone and keep mkb for later
      3) never buy lifesteal mask, u usually get jungle item and u just put it in ur neutral inv and go rosh then remove it and put sth better
      4) damn archon game overload

      Kowareta

        I mean u go for Q on lvl 8. Before i even look at the guides in this site im 100% sure nobody do that....

        Kowareta

          Yup nobody ever done that
          So yeah, are u even trying? seems not to me

          Kabir singh's bo0ster

            Problem is you don't want to know how you could have carried the game, you just want an excuse on why you couldn't. For example right off the bat you start off your sentence with a lie "I was matched with 2 guardians" when there is not a singular Guardian in that game.
            I gave it a quick look at the way I would describe your play is pretty much like every other Legend shitter that will never improve, losing 300 hp over a rune, garbage out dated skill build, garbage out dated item build, playing the wrong part of the map and completely stagnating in farm until you make a random throw and lose.
            You can write "rigged matchmaking" "literally 1v9" when you go 20/2, have 800 GPM, and still lose, not when you are a 4/5 dumpy legend with 300 GPM, and 0 impact.

            Go buy an account that is at the MMR you "deserve" without the "rigged matchmaking" and post it here so I can go die of laughter.

            Цей коментар був відредагований
            .
            .

              What a special kind of worthless imbecile you are, aren't you. Looking for excuses to let that frustration out once again, like "oh let me guess you posted this just to get validation and vent so I won't look bad when I will act like a mentally deranged subhuman, as I always do on the forum". I literally asked what I could have changed to carry the game because despite the feeding team and 2 GUARDIANS, WARLOCK AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHO ELSE I THINK NATURES PROPHET OR LYCAN, I think I could have since I was vs archons. So I'm asking >avg IQ people for insight. Why the fuck are you in my thread since you fucking braindead animal don't meet the minimum requirements?

              Kabir singh's bo0ster

                I told you what you could do. Not take garbage skill build, not take garbage item build, not take stupid trades, not take bad fights and curb your farm to measly 380 GPM. 1 look at dotabuff guides would be enough to see the meta skill and item build for Ursa, but you are too lazy to even do that.

                https://prnt.sc/t8h2yp This sums up your play, good player plays right part of map, shoves waves and gets massively farmed with a Battlefury, you run to the enemy team in a straight line with your shitty diffusal, die several times, and lose the game with 380 GPM, 4/5.

                There is no Guardians in this game ape, I might be stupid but I'm smarter then you apparently since I can fucking read what your teammates medals say.

                Yes you "literally asked what you could do", while twisting what the game went like several times, which shows you are not genuine about improving, Furion died 2 times in 10 min not 4-5, Warlock used heals mostly defensively on you several times 5+ in lane, what lost the game is your obvious lack of impact, similar to your equally braindead teammates.
                You always look at how bad your team was, but you don't acknowledge how better your enemies played, or how garbage their temmates were, Dusa literally had a PA JUNGLING MIN 0 all over her camps all game, yet she carried the game cause she kept away from u braindead 2k-3ks and farmed until she was huge.

                Цей коментар був відредагований
                v e n z

                  this guy is not using his brain surely, asking for help in forums then cries out his sadness and flaming those who want to help him . most of the stuff i see here in forum are like this xd either predict my mmr or this kind of stuff )))))))))

                  .
                  .

                    You're one dense piece of shit, Warlock and either NP or Lycan were fucking guardians get that in that dogshit empty brain. Oooh NP died twice and not 4-5 sorry if I couldn't keep fucking track of the fucking 3 lanes and their exact number of deaths while playing. The fact that NP and Lycan both combined fed 5 kills and not just NP makes such a HUGE difference, am I right you fucking imbecile. Warlock used heal offensively a billion times and hid in the trees to sap exp, did that went past you or is it a thing not convenient to mention? I wasn't looking for jackshit with my fucking diffusal as I was trying to stay away from fights as much as possible and farm you stupid piece of shit. Of course game fucking ends with 380 gpm and 4/5 with all the feeding apes in the team and the enemy team taking over the map plus the jungle split among 4 heroes. Omg my lack of impact contributed to the loss of the game, duh you braindead ape. This is why I wrote a fucking post.

                    @v e n z what sadness and most of all WHAT HELP you idiot. Animal here insults for no reason cause he's a mentally sick waste of cum and I'm the one who's at fault cause HE TRIED TO HELP?

                    Kabir singh's bo0ster

                      I wasn't looking for jackshit with my fucking diffusal as I was trying to stay away from fights as much as possible and farm" You don't see the problem in this sentence do you. Building Diffusal on Ursa this patch, and then farming with it fucking yikes no helping you.
                      You looked to farm the wrong parts of the map, never shoving waves aggressively and splitting bot when enemy is 5 manning top, jesus christ talking to someone few thousand MMR higher then you like you know how to play this game. Play another 10k games maybe you progress from Legend 3 in the next decade u fucking loser KEKW.

                      .
                      .

                        KeWk edgy animal on the internet. What the fuck are people below in mmr supposed to do according to you, suck your dick? Lmao sit down ape. Learn to talk like a normal human being and then people will listen, which for the umpteenth time is the whole fucking point of the thread: have suggestions on the mistakes.

                        One thing I knew is that I was playing according to the old skill build and that nobody builds blink anymore but I hardly ever go into meta and stuff. Despite using the old ones I won games, got 2 rampages with him lately and turned 2 hopeless matches. Why is the new build 3-1-3-1-3-1-4? I guess the basher/abyssal rush also depends on this, skipping 2nd.

                        Kabir singh's bo0ster

                          https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/5488076928 This is the meta skill and item build, max earth shock, get treads, battlefury, and get fat as fuck, then stack up on status resist Satanic/SnY, and get Abyssal, and MKB, order of purchasing depending on game. Your biggest problem is not knowing how to split up the map when the enemy is at your side, instead of playing on the other side of the map and getting like 3-4 waves + their whole jungle, instead you share farm with your teammates in a very small area, and if you ever improve and get to high Div- Immortal you will understand exactly what I was telling you, if you got BSJ to watch your game he would flame you for the same thing.

                          Цей коментар був відредагований
                          Kowareta

                            That image tho
                            5 fucking farm animals fighting over 4 jungle camps
                            :axe_laugh::axe_laugh::axe_laugh:

                            Atleast gaben does the right thing and match oldschool animal who max w on ursa with another braindead who skills wolves at lvl11
                            :axe_laugh::axe_laugh::axe_laugh:

                            Цей коментар був відредагований
                            .
                            .

                              In that case I'd show BSJ the old CLQ's videos where the one and only master dumpstered him back to the stone age. Btw I did understand what you said from the start as I know I'm really bad at farming and split pushing. I'm usually the one creating space by causing fights with pos 3-4s but Idk how to play outside of them, even though I got slightly better at it due to the quests and cavern crawl. In this game I felt trapped and didn't even think of leaving my side.

                              .
                              .

                                Instead I wonder when life will match this Kowadog with death.

                                Kowareta

                                  In that case I'd show BSJ the old CLQ's videos where the one and only master dumpstered him back to the stone age

                                  Holy fuck this guy insanity =))))
                                  Such a fucking sad loser

                                  v e n z

                                    this manchild just won't stop crying eh. HOW to WIN DOTA2 YOU ASK? HOW TO CARRY SHITHEAD TEAM YOU ASK? IMPROVE YOUR GAEMPLAY THEN U CAN CARRYT HIS SHITHOLES THAT U Were TALKING ABOUT.. TALK TO ME IF you'RE GOOD AT THE GAME K?

                                    v e n z

                                      you've been in this forum for more than 3 years and us till act like a child? what is this xd

                                      .
                                      .

                                        It was a joke kiddo.

                                        .
                                        .

                                          v e n z ? lmao gtfo

                                          v e n z

                                            if only there's a moderator in this forum this would have been thread locked the moment u post this shithead thread :)

                                            v e n z

                                              hey get good at dota then talk cant carry 3k scrubs? XD

                                              v e n z

                                                dis why kowareta always being sarcastic abt everything cus u guys lack understanding xd

                                                .
                                                .

                                                  Yes let's lock threads of people who dare ask for insights on matches ON THE FUCKING DOTABUFF FORUM. Where the fuck did another retarded imbecile come out from now? They should ban all the idiots who can't argue like decent human beings instead. "manchild" lmao is this another Kowadog account

                                                  Kowareta

                                                    Instead I wonder when life will match this Kowadog with death.

                                                    AHAHAHAHA
                                                    the axe laughs doing their job
                                                    :axe_laugh::axe_laugh::axe_laugh:

                                                    v e n z

                                                      JUST WATCH THE REPLAY OF YOUR MATCH , IM SURE YOU CAN ANALYZE STUFFS THERE RIGHT? IF THEY ALL PICK GARBAGE SHIT CORE HEROES THEN FUCKING ADJUST PLAY BRAINDEAD SUPPORT LIKE BANE SHIT

                                                      Цей коментар був відредагований
                                                      Kowareta
                                                        Цей коментар був видалений модератором
                                                        .
                                                        .

                                                          What job, making people pity you and hate your guts? But that's easy and it's cause you're an annoying, boring, braindead and pathetic little shit not for the Axe emoticon.

                                                          .
                                                          .

                                                            "waste of cum projection" wow using the same concepts and words I use, which in this case make 0 sense lmao. And also using the "same person" argument after I just said that that other animal uses your same words and is as braindead as you are. Might aswell change your name to pathetic projecting parrot

                                                            Kowareta

                                                              Dude the guy has 10k games, reading db on hourly basis, and dont even check the guides section before playing a hero. Not even checking it when she wants to know what she did wrong. :axe_laugh::axe_laugh::axe_laugh:

                                                              Saying why a nerfed W which gives +3 attacks or sth is worse than a Q which does dmg,slow and reposition the hero and the reason seems to be not going basher to her :axe_laugh::axe_laugh:
                                                              literally zero understanding of anything. Zero talent in any aspect of life. No wonder someone must show tities for money:axe_laugh::axe_laugh::axe_laugh:

                                                              v e n z

                                                                omg didnt notice his profile has 10k games :axe_laugh: massive facepalm for him , I feel sad for him

                                                                Kowareta

                                                                  Ya ya we are all same person and nothing is wrong with u. Why bothering yourself. Just go enjoy a little chat with friday and tell him about your updated incel skills
                                                                  :axe_laugh::axe_laugh::axe_laugh:

                                                                  .
                                                                  .

                                                                    Highly ironic coming from an ugly little incel who was obsessed with Parma hahahahahahaha
                                                                    Or you still are and started hating what you can't have?
                                                                    "in any aspect of life" now now stop talking about your life cause we don't care

                                                                    Цей коментар був відредагований
                                                                    Jack__Attack

                                                                      You probably couldn't have. Not all games are winnable.

                                                                      Kowareta

                                                                        As long as u are using term "we" to express your opinions and feelings every body see the insecurity and need of acceptance in you. Dont even bother to continue :axe_laugh::axe_laugh::axe_laugh:

                                                                        And parma was just the first mentally ill i ever met in my life and thats the only thing special about her and nothing more. Sadly for you for not being around when i logged in this forum

                                                                        Androgynous

                                                                          "One thing I knew is that I was playing according to the old skill build and that nobody builds blink anymore but I hardly ever go into meta and stuff"

                                                                          item choices are part of the game and good item choices make winning easier. imagine if an AM spends 10k gold on bloodstone + refresher orb instead of bfury + manta, of course that AM will lose the game. the same logic applies here.

                                                                          you buy morbid mask + diffusal (4050g) instead of bfury (4180g) and wonder why you can't carry the game. bfury and max earthshock farms much faster than diffusal + overpower, that's just a fact. carries need items to win games, and if you can't farm, you don't get items.

                                                                          your teammates feeding have no impact on your item choices. so you have no excuse to build bad items. if you want to try "fun" builds that are suboptimal that's up to you, but don't complain when you lose because of it.

                                                                          .
                                                                          .

                                                                            Looooool little obsessed incel digging his own grave as usual

                                                                            .
                                                                            .

                                                                              Androgynous I get the concept ofc, but when I said BF Ursa was amazing people made fun of it O.o
                                                                              Regarding items, who found excuses, I literally said it myself. If BF Ursa is even better than before then I'm happy to go for it every game

                                                                              Kowareta

                                                                                Yeah as usual. Still waiting on one link that shows i switched discussion cause i was out of word tho. I do that as usual too, arent i?
                                                                                :axe_laugh::axe_laugh::axe_laugh:

                                                                                Цей коментар був відредагований
                                                                                Androgynous

                                                                                  so one reason it wasn't as good before is that ursa had mana regen talent at 10 and drum gave mana regen, so you didn't need to go bfury to have infinite mana to farm.

                                                                                  prior to the treads + earthshock bfury build it was also situationally bought if u know the game will go late / you're against PL or naga, i guess even then people didn't realise how good farming on ursa was.

                                                                                  your excuse was moving the argument about your teammates feeding. the kabir guy mentioned that you should have built differently (max earthshock, built treads + bfury) but you ignored that (unintentionally?) and only focused on what your teammates did wrong.

                                                                                  okay so drow dies solo to dusa in lane. that has 0 impact on your decision making, or how well you play your own lane. so mentioning it is not relevant.

                                                                                  A̶𝖘𝖍𝖊𝖘

                                                                                    @SLQ: Basically you couldn't?

                                                                                    .
                                                                                    .

                                                                                      Androgynous I was describing the game as a whole to give context, and what an amazing context, cause you can ignore a meh team but not a tragic one. I questioned my build in the first post so I knew there was something off, especially cause I'm aware that it's old. I don't have to find any excuse otherwise why would I open a "how could I have carried this" thread in the first place. Anyway, if bf is the new blink I'm ok with it. Not sure I like the 2nd skill skip though.

                                                                                      Androgynous

                                                                                        early game you get earthshock so that you have some wave clear since you don't have bfury yet, and it's just good in lane as well. you don't have mana to sustain 2 spells so there is no point in getting overpower. it is almost a dead skill point.

                                                                                        fury swipes is only 9 damage per stack at level 1, getting 2nd point into fury swipes + having treads does a similar job as 1 into overpower + 1 fury swipes but doesn't cost mana, and also debuff duration goes up which means zoning the enemy out of lane for longer (look at slarks that get 2nd point into essence shift), plus tread switching is more value on heroes with low int

                                                                                        by the time you get bfury you will be close to level 10-11 anyway where you would then take overpower.

                                                                                        .
                                                                                        .

                                                                                          Oh now I see, can't be convinced to follow the new way if you don't know shit about why things changed ah. Thank you for taking time to explain.

                                                                                          ROAD TO HERALD 0

                                                                                            Here to laugh at OP now - sorry popcorn line was long xD

                                                                                            ROAD TO HERALD 0

                                                                                              How come i dont get such juicy analysis of my games. Seems people here only respond to rage sadKEK

                                                                                              wom*n beater

                                                                                                old build , change with the meta or lose

                                                                                                Dreadnought325

                                                                                                  Stop hiding in turbo matches, you need to get out and face reality. Find some coach, watch some videos, so many things you can do to improve yourself, unless you dont want to.

                                                                                                  .
                                                                                                  .

                                                                                                    Who's hiding and from what dude, are you lost? I think this is the wrong thread

                                                                                                    Kowareta

                                                                                                      I think this is the wrong thread

                                                                                                      :axe_laugh: :axe_laugh: :axe_laugh:

                                                                                                      #BisayaLivesMatter

                                                                                                        Who the fuck does not get q spell early game lol " I wanna play agressively " :V