We are still taking time to consider the results and precisely how DBR will be implemented. We will be releasing DBR on Friday and are still listening to feedback from the community in the meantime.
Okay, I truly hope the ratings will be public otherwise you will have every single player saying they are "Diamond" rank and photoshopping their "proof" when looking for teams etc.
I don't mind public stats, but if you had a toggle option that players had to sign in if they wanted to disable public rating, it would suit everyone.
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^ FIX: Maybe you could disable the current rating, but not the division the player is in..
Most of the time it isn't as simple as saying: most people want it public, so make it public. If 30% doesn't want it public, and for example: 100.000 people use this(high number, I know) 30.000 people wouldn't get what they wanted. I'd say: make it a setting that's public by default.
Wouldn't want a perfectly good system looking like a sham because players lie and photoshop their page before showing it to others.
If ratings go public, Dotabuff will finally gives players the opportunities they deserve to move up in the game. And we thank you for that. With 64.51% (public) vs. 27.86% (private), I believe it is clear what the community and followers of Dotabuff want you to do.
We appreciate your hard work; make it happen!
i honestly think this will fill a major gap in dota 2. regardless of what some people say , this game is competitive,and it shouldn't be treated any different.
Well said CaptainHook. A game that has a 5 million dollar tournament every year should not be concerned with "feelings". This is a competitive game. Take your losses, learn something from them, and take your victories with pride. Hard work deserves recognition. Ratings need to be public.
Given the decision to make these ratings public, is there a way to remove our profiles from dotabuff completely / opt out of data collection?
@fool
there shouldn't be a way to remove yourself. practice hard and try like everybody else does. in time you will get better. and you should look forward to seeing how you are progressing in a game with such a large population.
Were ratings private (or even officially supported by valve as part of some form of opt-in ranked mode), that'd be fine. I'm happy to see my personal stats - but the idea of being berated every game due to having some public rating with no ability to opt out is concerning. I guess if there is no way to opt out of dotabuff rating the only option would be to just stop playing dota, which sucks, because dota is awesome.
@fool
If your going to quit DotA because you can't opt out and are afraid of ridicule you have some larger problems at hand. Who cares what someone else says? Mute them.
Regardless, if you feel the need to quit, bye bye. More than 65% of us will still be around and the game will flourish beyond belief when Dotabuff releases a rating system and the game leaves Beta. A rating system is one of the first thing gamers look for when starting a new game. You don't understand how many LoL and HoN players I know who love DotA the most out of any MOBA, but they don't play it because there are no rankings.
When DotA 2 leaves beta and goes public; if Dotabuff displays public rankings for everyone, they will receive traffic from every single competitive player in the game.
One of the biggest parts of competitive gaming is being able to compare yourself to others.
Yeah, I'm still in favor of not releasing public DBR numbers. A huge reason I moved to Dota2 from HoN was because of the individual mentality and Stat-Whoring that went along with HoN because of easily view-able ELO/MMR numbers. However, with DOTABuff's tier system, which is a great feature from SC2 and soon to be implemented into LoL, I feel like making those public would be a perfectly acceptable move. My two cents.
strreamix_ncL
lets be honest here, its 65% of the 25k that voted. Hardly a large pool of the 3,000,000 unique players.
The lack of public rating is one of the key factors that makes dota2 so much better than HoN.
Regardless, surely the optimal solution is to allow those who want their rating to be public to display it publically, and to allow those who don't want it displayed to opt out of either rating display or data collection?
I spose the alternative would be to include opt-out as one of the premium features for dotabuff plus people. Kinda dodgey, but certainly seems like an effective way to raise funds.
Stat whoring is still an issue because there is still a specific number that moves based on you performance. It leads to petty arguments among players before matches even start. It can lead to defeatist attitudes that pull people away from working together. It has nothing to do with KDA or Ward Drops, Tide Ult Hits, Pudge Hook Accuracy, it has to do with a specific number being shown to people that lets them say "I am exactly 200 pts better than you, let me decide how to treat you based off that number." If you don't think that will happen, then go play any competitive game with ratings like these easily available.
Look, I want a rating. I want to see that number move for myself. But I don't need some dick-weed whose on a lucky 7 game win streak to tell me because I'm 2 points lower than him that I can't play mid because he gets to tell us all how to play now.
Keeping just the categories public lets people show off where they are, but you don't know if I'm in the top percentage of that group or you're in a lower of another, and quite frankly no one will care, because the MM will most likely manage to keep people in the same groups playing together.
A poll *on a stats website* asking about whether to *have more stats*... That 99% of Dota players didn't even vote on? I wouldn't read too much into the results.
"One of the biggest parts of competitive gaming is being able to compare yourself to others."
THE BIGGEST part of video gaming is having fun. I will not have fun if someone will compare his DBR with mine in game and constantly flaming every other move that his team does just because he has the highest DBR on the team. The idea of displaying the Bracket publicly but not the actual DBR is a good one.
Also a good addition will for you to be able to see your DBR in a chart in order to see if you're improving or not.
I'm not sure whether I like this or not, I can see it's advantages but I definitely see some disadvantages to a system like this. I personally, and I assume a lot of people with me, enjoy just gaming casually without the anxiety of constantly needing to improve your rating because it's visible to everyone.
Let's see where this goes after friday and what impact it has in public games. And lets not jump to any conclusions yet ^^.
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The result of DBR public vs private ranking was heavily in favor of Public. On Friday, will we be able to view other's ratings simply by going to their page?