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General DiscussionFucking matchmaking, 5k+ players I need your advice please

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Strongmind

    http://dotabuff.com/matches/657211703 How to win game like this? I m atm 4500 mmr, can someone check replay and tell me what terribly wrong I did here..

    Behemecoatyl

      May I ask what was the point of Shadow blade? I feel that probably just decreased your survivability going that first. I mean you have blink slardar for an initiation and I thought SB dk would only be good if you had someone to follow up with it with you. Like a life stealer inside you or a puck silence or something that needs them staying in place. Idk, Im just curious

      nlnj_a

        Those pl items...
        Hael's new account?

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        Sieg

          >Ton of magic damage one the enemy team.
          >Better build a Sange.
          >Might as well go Lothar's too while I'm at it.

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          mongoloid

            Who needs BKB when you've got phoenix and assault cuirass??? I wouldnt comment on your mechanical skills, i havent seen the replay. But BKB would have won you the game alone.

            eXcel

              Plus walking around with a recipe is kinda dumb.

              mwsqz

                4.5 is kinda the worst of all mmr id say if there is a elo hell this is it :)

                playhard

                  Some games you are just not meant to win. Deal with it.

                  eXcel

                    I testify that 4.5 is a pretty turd mmr. Games seem to be all stomps and normally have a sulky whiner per game. They are both unwinnable and unlosable at times.

                    cartographer

                      If you think 4.5 is hell, wait until you hit 4 flat. You'll get queued with 3.8k-ers who can't even last hit well.

                      mwsqz

                        ^it doesnt matter. ive played every mmr from 3k to 6k and 4.5 is the worst

                        BaBon

                          mid 4k trench is real

                          Bone Chilling

                            I dunno the games at 4.5k+ feel quite balanced. What I really like about the bracket is that I can pick a support knowing that my carry will get every single last hit as long as I do my job well. And supports just have more influence on the game at this bracket, and playing a great support game feels even better than carrying your team as a carry >.<

                            Ples Mercy

                              uninstall

                              Bone Chilling

                                ^ not a ranked game

                                MadDoxX

                                  over 100+games, u played only carry! dafuk?

                                  Strongmind

                                    I actually wanted some advice from 5k+ ppl not 2-4k which don`t have clue what they are actually talking about in most cases, but no problem I m gonna explain to everyone why recipe, why sange , and why not bkb and why shadow blade:

                                    1.HǣL Sure you can , Main reason why shadow blade is for Initiation. Shadow Blade is almost a core on Dk every game if you didnt knew pros buying shadow blade with Dk very often,and main reason is again initiation in teamfights and ganks with one of the best stuns in the game and thats Dk stun. You have a point with dagger slardar but problem is Slardar went treads/vanguard/ogre club and he bought dagger at min 29 ( total game finished at min 31 ) so his dagger was kinda useless cus he didnt understanded a role of his hero at all he bought at 29 min. after we all spammed him to buy it,so basicly for some reason he didnt knew Dagger is core on Slardar even he was 4300 mmr or smth. I hope you understand now everything.

                                    2. nlnj_a Pl was like 4300 mmr and he was ultra bad for some reason,maybe he is account buyer maybe just total noob with Pl or just a classic troll as you can se he went for 3 ring of aquila so basicly he wanted to ruin game on purpose

                                    3. Siegfried I bought recipe cus I had 2000 gold already more and wanted to finish Ac,but radiant was pushing our midle and bottom and I couldnt buy hyperstone and finish it with currier cus currier will die or if I went to secret shop I ll also die. I bought Sange after game was already over and when they were atacking throne after megacreps, wanted to spend money.

                                    4. Z Z Z Z Z Z Sure Dk needs bkb this game, but in this case where we didnt had a carry normal player as you can see we had 0 dps, and I did more dps than Slardar and Phantom Lancer together I had to go for some semi-carry build to actually do some dmg in fights,if I went straight bkb game would be even more stomp,cus I ll do much more dmg as you can see their burst dmg wasnt problem for me like i was dieing cus of that or smth I died only 1 in whole game,so your argument is invalid. Also Bkb wont change anything good in this game if i went it instead of shadow blade as I said game would be even more stomp.

                                    5. Guiri As I explained to Siegfried, I bought recipe cus I was sure i ll buy ac but unfortunately I couldnt reach shop with currier or with myself cus of Radiant pressuring our base.

                                    6.cxz I don`t think its the worst, Games when I was like 1 month ago 4200 mmr games was much much worse, that was total disaster and unplayeble almost. I also was 4900-5000 mmr and ofc games are much better than 4500 , but skill of 4500 players actually isnt that bad. Games are easy to lose here cus of stupid picks,lanes,trolls and miss of communication which is problem at pubs in every bracket.

                                    7. Kyle, it's a retard magnet! True

                                    8. Daymn Son Actually seems like you uninstalled cus you didnt played a game more than a month or you are just ashamed of your 3600-4100 mmr and you cant take it anymore

                                    ICE SKULL

                                      ne slusaj noobove , samo gledaj tvoje replaye i tako napreduj , tretiraj svoj tim kao protivnike ako si solo queue

                                      Phenomenal

                                        "How to win game like this?"

                                        You dont, unless you're 2k higher in skill then both teams. Games like that are sadly in every bracket and you just have to ignore them and move on or you can go crazy.

                                        Strongmind

                                          Hurricane Hurricane I m pretty sure that Arteezy with 2k higher mmr which is 6500 wont win this game.

                                          Vaikiss`742.

                                            start by picking heroes that has impact to the game

                                            and dk isnt one ?

                                            frostychee

                                              It really sounds like you are just trying to get people to say what you want to hear. Glancing at the stats, it looks like you were the only one to be active on your team and not feed. Good job. I'm not saying I'm better than you or I watched the replay, but to be honest these are probably the 2 type of replies you were going to hear.

                                              If someone gives you advice who's worse than you so you respond "not 2-4k which don`t have clue what they are actually talking about in most cases".

                                              If someone who is better or you will agree with will say "Some games you are just not meant to win. " or "start by picking heroes that has impact to the game " and you will be happy because you did all you could and there's nothing more you could have done.

                                              Pretty much you made this topic to either bash people or get your ego stroked, when you know full well that in dota there are many games which are winnable after the 5 minute mark. Get over yourself and deal with the fact you can't win all games. A majority of dota players should know that.

                                              FlipFlop

                                                indeed, 4.5 is the worst.

                                                eXcel

                                                  I love this attitude from Bogi, anyone below 5k is not worth talking to and is a better player than him lol. You've been sat below me in MMR for months now shit break. Deal with it.

                                                  efix

                                                    you people actually do believe pre 5k is the worst... lel
                                                    playing calibration for people at that level/another account of mine and i've never been under a 8-2 / 7-3 record... that's like the elo heaven.

                                                    sleave

                                                      if arteezy plays seriously like he would in a tournament im pretty sure he would've won this game

                                                      Low Expectations

                                                        Maybe you should just ragequit? Ive heard you are good at that

                                                        Strongmind

                                                          SLEAVE No , he wont