General DiscussionDendi PA RMM Gameplay + XBOCT (Tide) | PA, good pick for TI4?

He plays it cuz its fun not because its strong.

No, PA is an underwhelming carry. She can't really snowball (you'd have to be seriously seriously ahead) and BKB puts her in a tough spot. Not saying shes weak but she won't be a steady pick.

More situational.

I think PA is a very stable hero. Got boosted nerarly every patch. Ofc no aoe, stun, disable etc. Could be very strong with Io or Tusk in team.

Stable hero -> could be strong with io or tusk in team

relies on certain heroes to be strong

Stable hero

Hmmm....

pseudo stable hero

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She's situational, you shouldn't pick her against heavy magical dmg lineups.

She is pretty much in same tier with AM.

Could be very strong with Io or Tusk in team. -> ugh wtf?

Does anyone depend on tusk? "okay kids, we are gonna need tuskar to snowball us into the enemy base...and rape face, come meepos roll out"

/trollpicks

Although tbh meepo is freaking strong if there are no counters

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Nah, tusk isn't necessary but very underrated. Io (Wisp) is standard and strong with nearly every hero in combo. But in my opinion, PA should be played in more league games.

PA is too easily countered. Her natural weakness is magic and a bkb "resolves" that, unless that magic is a Lina that rushes aghs.

^the issue is that she will get killed a lot before she gets the BKB, or she will be dead weight in the early game because she rushed BKB with no damage.

BKB? Get Omniknight, problem solved.

PA is difficult to work into a draft. Yes she can work (Cloud 9 and Alliance have showed us that), but it's an uphill task despite not being able to deny her farm.

Off the top of my head, these are her biggest drawbacks:
1. Her window of opportunity is the mid game, where she's got her BKB up and the enemy team has no MKBs. Miss this window and things will start to go downhill.
2. If you don't pick her last, I guarantee the enemy team will pick up either FV or any support with a disable that goes through BKB (Bane/Beastmaster etc.)

"^the issue is that she will get killed a lot before she gets the BKB, or she will be dead weight in the early game because she rushed BKB with no damage. "
I was just pointing out that even bkb'd PA is pretty easy to counter.

the context made me think it was sarcasm my bad.

Best counter for every AGI hero is "disabling/silencing". Doom on her = no crits, no evasion. In my opinion, Doom is very underrated for countering such hardcarries.

Underrated? He's THEE most picked/banned hero in the competitive scene and 23rd in pub play. Pubs tend to not utilize him correctly, that's about it.