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General DiscussionWhat is the best way of dealing with tanky strength heros?

What is the best way of dealing with tanky strength heros? in General Discussion
Low Expectations

    For example cent, brewmaster, tide, wraith king etc and overall strength oriented lineups

    PaintItBlack

      naix boys?

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        N4

          Lifestealer and Necrolyte...
          Why is Lifestealer my most picked? Well, I see fat heroes in much games so I counter... :D

          Low Expectations

            Problem with naix=> centaur ulti naix sad

            Luxon

              well you can't really approach them the same way just because they are tanky. Centaur is tanky but he doesn't do much damage after he casts his spells so you can kinda focus on him after you clean up his team(if you can). while you need to get rid of that bristleback and Wraith King ASAP because they are most likely doing heavy damage.

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              Fay

                All melee
                I wish good luck in lane

                and since most of them are dumb "low int" get outworld devourer and spam that ulti like shit

                get a ranged carry and support line up like

                viper, lich top lane
                OD mid
                necro/pugna bot

                or you can just get medusa and rape all of them at once end game.

                salt enjoyer

                  Ironically Skywrath is pretty good against all of them provided you get a decent silence off.

                  Hex Sigma

                    sky, viper, naix, necro, od etc

                    Big Boost Big Boobs

                      timbersaw ofc

                      Flat is Justice!

                        below 3k mmr = ursa
                        above 3k mmr = timbersaw

                        6_din_49

                          If they don't have much AOE, illusions heroes are quite good. At lvl 16+ a ck with manta is quite strong against single target without escape.

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                          Z__

                            Any carry with crits will do the job.

                            Wink


                              Massive pure damage burst and -HP against strength heroes


                              Great -armor and bonus damage for teammates as well as lockdown and other CC


                              % hp based spells, -magic resist, good CC


                              %hp based spells


                              amazing -armor, good lockdown, good chase

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                              Heathen

                                Be the bullshit tanky strength hero.

                                http://dotabuff.com/matches/758400448

                                Sieg

                                  @wink

                                  Pretty much this, str heroes melt to -armor due to their already low armor.
                                  Your physical damage will basically become amplified pure damage against them.

                                  efix

                                    tinker with dagon/eblade

                                    Phenomenal

                                      I think the best thing vs tanky heroes is magic dmg, since a lot of them normally dont buy BKB.

                                      sleave

                                        void with MoM and daedalus

                                        Vaikiss`742.

                                          SLARRRRRRRRRRRRRRK

                                          yiran

                                            Don't let them blink into your face.

                                            Bot (Passive)

                                              strength heros excel at the mid game when they get a blink or bloodstone or whatever item they need, its usually only one item, and their strengths revolve around their kit and tends to be shut down by bkb.

                                              thus, you should have a bkb carry. lifestealers not a good option against strength heros because they tend to build armor which completely shuts him down.

                                              veno does work on him (cancelling blinks with wards, gale allows you to kite them around, and r does work even on str heros), slardars solid with his ult, timber, TA is also great. AA can shut these guys out of lanes at level 1 and his w and r do work on them post-laning stage.

                                              just keep in mind that after the mid game these heros tend to fall off a lot, so you should try to burn them early on in lanes to cripple their mid game and if you can keep it even after the mid game you should be fine.

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                                              iphone....wow

                                                Necro, Timber, why not elder titan also?
                                                100% Base armor reduced and 33% magic resist reduced, can deal almost pure damage to tank maybe

                                                Luxalpa, Primal Calamity

                                                  @Yfay, you can't spam OD ulti.
                                                  Also it's ineffective against str heroes. Even if it deals like 1500 damage, you're up against a 4k hp hero, so it's not that good. In general, I think OD is rather mediocre against mass str heroes. It just takes him too long to rape him, and he is squishy, so he dies fast.

                                                  Low Expectations

                                                    *Bumping topic after seeing VP getting rekt vs a strenght lineup using the - armor strat.
                                                    What do you think was it execusion? IMO Bristleback just didnt care. Any other ideas how to play vs these heros? Or is it only the % dmg heros that can deal with them?

                                                    Dire Wolf

                                                      Elder titan doesn't work, he only strips off base armor which is armor from plus agi items, not plus armor items. So it doesn't remove like ac, shivas etc.

                                                      I'd just counter str with str. They have centuar, bristle, brew? Get doom and tidehunter. Then some ranges to blow them up.

                                                      Wink

                                                        @deadshot
                                                        they never had a chance because they were focussing the BB instead of the actual damage dealers. also getting picked off like 9 times wasnt helping, and treant was useless because of ember.