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General Discussiontemplar assassin pro playa pls help me

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wraithseeker

    I just had a game earlier where nwp yamateh (viper) gt rekt by a 5.8k ta so easily. I don't really see how viper counter's TA?

    Androgynous

      because viper can easily remove refraction charges, that's all

      黎の軌跡

        What? AC has 2 major advantages over Butterfly even for agi carries.
        #1 The minus armor works on buildings. If you have deso already, you're really going to be wrecking infra.
        #2 The bonuses from AC aren't disabled by chrono/hex. The evasion from butterfly is great... until it doesn't matter cuz you got chronoed/hexed.

        Also, viper needs to be pooled sentries to really wreck ta.

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        Dire Wolf

          It's not as big of a decrase as 60 dmg deals. A T3 tower has 25 base armor so stacking with deso drops is to 13 which is a huge amount, like a 20% increase in dmg, but 13 is still a lot of armor. If you do 200 dmg against a tower with 13 armor thats 200 * (1 - .438) * .5 (towers take half dmg from heroes) = 56.2. Add butterfly dmg at 18 armor is 260 (+60 for bfly) * (1- .529) * .5 = 61.23.

          You need like 300 base dmg for the number to be equal. And that's your best case scenario when you already have deso. Without deso you'd need even more base dmg cus going from 25-20 armor is not as much dmg increase as going from 18-13.

          Of course the buff applies to your entire team which is why it's an awesome team buff but again, you should have someone else who can build it. There is almost always another str hero on the team who will benefit a lot more cus butterfly for them is only +30 dmg.

          Zenoth

            viper has shit for speed

            he wins the lane in general but you can damage control via aggro mechanics, and one small slip up and viper is dead

            they probably traded even cs until 6 or something

            Quick maffs

              but if they are both 6 he just ulties you and you cant kill him right ?

              BenaoLifedancer

                unless you have dust or sentry he can just evade it with invis right?

                Quick maffs

                  What i mean is that i though TA wins against viper earlier ( lvl 4 or lvl 5 )

                  Plus if you are the one atacking viper you will be in almost melee range so dodging his ulti should be pretty hard.

                  Zenoth

                    viper wins earlier, but by virtue of better harassment only. a combination of bottle crow/runes will give ta the hp advantage, and against that viper will lose out. viper's 285 base also means he can't contest runes well and can be easily punished for positioning aggressively (necessary part of winning the lane), so until 6 it is a fairly even matchup rune luck not withstanding.

                    Vaikiss`742.

                      u dont right click viper u just harass him with psy blades

                      Dire Wolf

                        I thought any damage source proc'd corrosive skin. Does psy blades avoid this somehow?

                        jo~

                          no u still get damged

                          Quick maffs

                            ez 3 ta games

                            Quick maffs

                              Just going for the same build that dragonfist goes

                              Phase drums yasha deso

                              Green_Sky

                                i still think TA is still damaged if psi blade hits viper
                                is that true?

                                Sir

                                  check out waga he is basically the best

                                  I'M MID| FUCK OFF NOOBS

                                    tl dr
                                    phase, bottle optional, blink, desolator, daedalus/cuirass. game should be over by now

                                    Vaikiss`742.

                                      i decided to spam abit ta to try how ez it is to get some mmr using her

                                      so far its working flawlessly if we don't lose game before 20 minute we win

                                      Green_Sky

                                        can u tell my your item build priority Vaikiss ? we all start with bottle phase drum yasha deso but what's next? i saw your match history and feel like u prefer manta? or it's just situational?

                                        Fay

                                          so viper boots first item legit?

                                          ICE SKULL

                                            dont buy bkb on ta dude its useless on her

                                            Vaikiss`742.

                                              yes i do love manta or atleast yasha just for movement speed and farming speed

                                              i usualy go

                                              2 or 3 branches > bottle > boots > phases > Drums/Midas/dagger depending on situation > yasha/deso/dagger > and if game drags out long > manta/buterfly/ac/mkb/deadalus depending on heroes im playing against if in need for exrta lockdown might even get hex or abyssal but very rarely

                                              i only buy threads if im 100% sure that i will get blink

                                              with phases 95% of the time il just go drums and yasha/manta just to have insane movement speed skipping dagger completely (relying on teams disables mostly)

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                                              Welt aus Eis

                                                watch dragonfist

                                                ICE SKULL

                                                  i dont suggest picking ta or doing anything good mid, 90% of my games when i dominate mid with 2x more cs, 2-3 more late game items, i still lose because i get account buyers instapicking carries and shit

                                                  Hopeless

                                                    ^
                                                    Boosts and Sells accounts

                                                    Complains about account buyers.

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                                                    ICE SKULL

                                                      if you had enough brain cells required to do logical thinking you'd figure out why almost why 2/4 of the people on eu leaderboard do it but then again, you go to reddit and throw childish insults on a video game forum

                                                      totally epic keep it up

                                                      Nemesis

                                                        wish i had people to do co-op bots with for battle points ;(

                                                        Hopeless

                                                          "if you had enough brain cells required to do logical thinking you'd figure out why almost why 2/4 of the people on eu leaderboard do it but then again, you go to reddit and throw childish insults on a video game forum"

                                                          You think it requires great intelligence to figure out that people boost/sell accounts to make money?

                                                          No one questions why you do it. The point is you are so obtuse you don't realize how ridiculously hypocritical you are. Similar to how you seem to think reading Reddit is a terrible and insulting thing, and yet you know every time when I am posting something from reddit, clearly indicating that you read Reddit as well.

                                                          How you don't catch yourself before posting this inane hypocritical drivel is beyond me.

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