General DiscussionHero Rankings

yup top 20, there are lots of noobs and smurfs that got abandoned so...
just intresting to me, whats ur mmr?

2660. It started off with 2400. But throughout the year I started doing yoga and as a result i controlled my anger and rage somewhat. Maybe this is the reason why it is going up abit. Sometimes I still rage and lose. But yeah back to your point. If im 2660 MMR, how can I be top 20%? Or should I ask, If im top 20% how can I be 2660 MMR.

how are you platinum 1 at 2660 mmr?
Im 3300 at ranked and get very high at normal games and have all heroes at platinum 1

how are you 2600 mmr? you have very high skill games

Not sure. I too asked myself this question. So I created a smurf to see what MMR i get and i got 2400 MMR again. To be honest, I think the MMR system is abit weird. I played my 10 games to get my rank with supports. Because, I actually enjoy playing supports and I'm good at it. But someone who plays a carry and spams zeus ulti all game gets a higher MMR than me. What do you think?

i think your hidden mmr is hegher the 3300. Hidden mmr is when you play none ranked games.

Maybe, Im not sure, because I dont play many non-ranked games.

Would be good to hear what someone else thinks about this. Maybe we are both wrong?

To clear some things up:
1. You very high skill are simply happening because you stack with plays who are better than you.
2. The Toplist doesn't say top world, since not everyone is registered at dotabuff.
3. Your AA winrate is 65% and your BS winrate is 53%, how is your BS then better? Even your score is lower.
4. Score is very different for every hero, you cannot take a score for Meepo and compare it with Spirit breaker for instance.

Thank you, I understand your points. does this mean that winrate is infact the only way to find out how good you are at a hero? Does this mean that all other stats like Score is useless? What I want to know is what do these stats even mean? Because looking at the forums, not a single person has the same answer. Are you also concluding that my AA is better than my BS? Did you come to this conclusion because my winrate, score, and KDA is higher? Should we be ignoring Rank because it is only comparing me with other DotaBuff Plus users? How many people have Dota Buff Plus?

No, i would say, the most important points are:
- Winrate
- Games played
- Division

Those 3 affect the overall score the most.

These ranks are not dotabuff plus only, they are also present for regular dotabuff users, but not for all Dota2 players. Winrate does describe how good you are at a hero only a bit.

There are so many factors that describe how good you are at a hero, for instance, if you have 60% winrate with invoker over 400 games and i would have 50% winrate with invoker over 400 games, i would still get a higher score because i am in a higher devision. The devisions are somewhat a replacement for MMR, since dotabuff is not allowed to get info on MMR from the webAPI.

To figure out if your AA is truly better than your BS is up 2 you. Some hero are simply better in pubs than others, for instance if i would get 55% winrate with invoker over 2k games that would be rather hard since invoker is a very team dependant hero and also is situational, but when i have a 55% winrate with slark over 2k games it is safe to say that my invoker would be better than my slark because of the fact that you can pick slark whenever, he has no real counter imo.

omg kda winrate is low for top rankings also ur division ( skill bracket ) is low for rankings

@Ynit lol im 71th Ursa :')

Lel ur welcome fyyq

forever IO

Thanks Great Cornholio. I think I understand.

@FYYQ, I actually dont even know what you just said! Did you just say im a noob? XD

low division games means" skill of opponents" .. if u beat better opponents u get more points for ur hero plus what the guy said above

I have never seen an ursa below 55% wr wtf

the answer is megapenis

ty ty starting to understand this system

:) happy for that!

also how the fuck are you 91% winrate on Ursa? Please teach.

im only 66% with 3.1 KDA lel. So ive just noticed my KDA for all my carries are low. I think i suck at KS-ing

ursa is too op... Ynit above helped me a lot with his Io for about 13-15 games but i use to go ursa jungle for 4 minutes then smoke/ roshan at 4 lvl then im 7 instant so i start gank its ez

only 4 minutes? wtf how are you even farming your items? What items do you start with? Why do you go when your lvl 4?

stout tango get fast morbid mask and smoke do fast rosh ezy pzy

1)stout , tangos , 2 branch , health pot
2) Skillbuild 0-2-2-0
3)in 4 mins i have morbid mask,smoke of deceit and tp scroll
4)i go back to base and heal i smoke i tp on tier 2 tower and i cast overpower and then i wait till cd goes to 2secs and then hit rosh 4 times then imidiatelly cast overpower again to stack faster my passive so i wont die then rest is easy also (after rosh im 7lvl so i put ulty and 2lvl on Q then i need like 200g for phaceboots.. i farm them asap and go help lanes )

Nice. I will try this!

feel free to add me and ask anything u want

Is there any specific jungle creeps you look for during that 4 minute period?

golems, ogres and the the camp with nutural that gifffs 100 gold