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General Discussioncan somone tell me your prediction what mmr i will get

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Banshee~

    Guys can u predict what mmr will I get after calibration on this acc? I post on reddit they say 3.8 some 3.6k+ how about your opinion.

    Livin' Real Good

      7K MMR

      King of Low Prio

        about 2k

        Hanter

          pacific e sportz boyz

          TheTRactoR

            exactly 224

            Relentless

              It's hard to say because you got anti-smurfed to Very High and have lost 225 MMR since then. But since you did not drop down into High skill we don't know how much the anti-smurf overated you initially.

              Mostly likely you will be around 4k MMR, but its really hard to tell.

              TripleSteal-

                @relentless
                games are not +/-25 pts in NMM, the mmr gain and loss there doesnt even depend on whether you are losing or winning at this point.

                Relentless

                  That's only during the anti-smurf. Usually its about the first 5 games. Then it goes back to almost all being 25 points.

                  Valve could have changed things behind the scences and not said anything, but I believe they use the regular straight points elo type algorithm after anti-smurf - this conclusion is based on test samples of peoples games I did over a year ago on how many games it takes an established account to move between Normal, High, and Very High in solo unranked.

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                  TripleSteal-

                    the calibration period in NMM lasts 50 games at the moment, afaik

                    Relentless

                      No it's 3 to 5 games of anti-smurf first. During this period MMR fluctuates wildly and is changed based on unspecified, nebulous stats - but basically its KDA.

                      Then you have long period to get 130 games before you can play ranked during which time games are worth 25 MMR and you can sort out most of any mistakes made by the anti-smurf.

                      Then you get another 10 game calibration where MMR gains/losses appear to be straight changes, but 100 points per game instead of 25.

                      After that everything is straight points, which means its going to be 25 points unless the game is really unfair and one team has way more MMR than the other.

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                      TripleSteal-

                        im lazy to find proofs, but u r wrong.
                        u can check it by looking through the games of recently created accs, sometimes they jump from NS to VHS and back depending on how well they do (not on whether they won or not), so its kindacommon to see someone losing with 11-1-17 as am in normal skill at his 20th game and going for VHS in next one.

                        Relentless

                          That data is confused by whether people are in parties, and whether Valve places parties in their games.

                          Look at my history, jumping between Normal and Very High in one game after 3,000 games. It's not because of in-game stats. It's because there are 4 seperate MMR's and mine are quite different. You have to sort all of that out before you can analyse the match history correctly or you have to use your own games and your friends games like I did so you know exactly which MMR is being used.

                          I've played in games with people as much as 3,000 MMR point away from me. It doesn't happen in ranked anymore as far as I can tell. Valve claims they changed that, but it still happens in unranked.

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                          TripleSteal-

                            nah i mean i had friends who did it and it was solo q only
                            also i talked to several guys who calibrate and sell accs for money

                            Relentless

                              So give me an example of a smurf who dropped back into Normal while playing solo because of bad stats, after winning his 20th game in Very High. I don't think that happens. After the anti-smuf moves you up, you have to lose a ton of games to drop back down.

                              Or contrapositively find someone who fed in his first few games of Normal, got locked into normal... then after 20 games of Normal went 30-0-10 with Tinker and skipped to Very High despite losing the game in solo que... these are not real scenarios.

                              Anyway, I believe it is set up so that Very High is about 20 net wins above Normal, or conversly that Normal is 20 net losses below Very High. So High skill bracket is 20 games wide.

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                              TripleSteal-

                                "so give me an example..."

                                nah, i dont have enough time to look for it. feel free to not believe me.

                                Banshee~

                                  I think winrate on normal matchmaking does not affect your mmr, so just as he said everygame you win or loss +/-25 so as if my initial mmr 4k if i lose games i get +/-25 mmr?

                                  wahmbulance

                                    well i just made this account when reborn became default. i jump up to vhs randomly. i mostly play solo. i partied in my first couple of games. i seem to jump to vhs everytime i rekt 3 games in a row on high skill. soo. its all very confusing. i hope to get vhs only :(

                                    Smurf

                                      low WR, low KDA but very high skill so just slightly above 3.7k

                                      coolkobol

                                        10000000000000000000k mmr

                                        8
                                        8

                                          That's easy math with mc. Result=3878, std. deviation=39, 10000 runs.

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                                          Banshee~

                                            How can i find my average KDA of all my matches

                                            Trodlabundin

                                              im late to the party, but Relentless is very much right in the anti-smurf shit hes talking about. You're wrong Tirpleshit.

                                              Banshee~

                                                Everytime I play i dont really rely on winning but getting many kills as they said in reddit wr doesnt really matter only kda and some stuff is it true?

                                                Banshee~

                                                  @8 howd you get 3878, howd you even get to do that?