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UKDOTA: Does Anyone Care? in General Discussion
Lisan al Gaib

    UKDOTA is a barren wasteland. 1 pro player who was kicked from a tier 3 team, and an outstanding caster who doesn't even get the best gigs. We need some exposure, like a LAN tournament or at least some good organisations. Any thoughts on this topic would be well appreciated.

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      Riguma Borusu

        what the fuck is UKDOTA

        Lisan al Gaib

          if your not gonna post a serious comment, go and mess around on some other post

          Riguma Borusu

            I actually didn't know what it was. So now I know, and I see it kinda bathes in irrelevancy.

            Lisan al Gaib

              this is why i am talking about. Noone cares about Uk Dota cuz none of the 9 teams based in the UK try to use home grown talent, they just sign sub par foreign players. The reason why teams like EG and VG are good is because they found local talent and gave it time to prosper. If the UK dota teams did that, there would be a much wider range of UK players in the Pro Scene

              Livin' Real Good

                NA Doto > EU Doto, a new era has come, it's about time we got the lime light. Kappa

                Just like PPD said (he seriously said this on stream the other day, probably joking though) " If you ain't playing on US west and East, you doing something wrong. " XD

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                HaylingZar

                  Yeah name 5 good players from UK
                  (apart from me kappa)

                  TripleSteal-

                    i see someone mentioning na dota, i automatically assume whole thread is shit

                    saving private RTZ

                      Alliance is back, NA is back to trash

                      .GENGHIS.

                        They had a Dota 2 team based in UK named London Conspiracy. It consisted of 5 Greek players. That actually tells tale of UK pro scene.

                        sayaka

                          beesa left of his own accord

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                            I wish there was a bigger UK doto scene, maybe it's up to us to to become 8k players. Until then we can just be Alliance Fanshits.

                            the realm's delight

                              playing the carry

                              GayPirate

                                I remember playing a game against ForLove international (Fl.int) and they were pretty normal considering this was jdl division 3. If im British but live abroad am i considered part of UKdota?

                                cancer

                                  Isn't London Conspiracy a Swedish team?(I know that London is in UK but the last time I saw the team tag it was with a Swedish flag.)

                                  swoleytrinity

                                    "If you ain't playing on US west and East, you doing something wrong." cause US is easy wins so why not.

                                    The issue with UKDota and something I have found playing in a team here and about is the UK is full of LADs. Literally people who just want to fuck about and never take anything seriously.

                                    1. Koreans/Chinese etc. are artists, they try and master something, and work at it till perfection.
                                    2. Games and/or Dota2 for a lot of EU nations is all they have so they pump a lot of time and energy into it.
                                    3. USA has a delusional idea that they're naturally the best at everything so they fight to prove that point.
                                    4. UK just wants to have a few beers at the pub, nothing more. Same pretty much applies to Australia.
                                    5. Same reason as some of EU applies for SEA, mostly it's all they have but cause they play it so much you tend to find talent there.

                                    TL:DR If there is talent in the UK he's buried at the bottom of a pint glass.

                                    swoleytrinity

                                      Actually what Pacman said, I used to play a bit with peeps for the FL.int group and they're actually decent to an extent.

                                      Murranji

                                        Pyrion Flax and Shane are organising "engLAN" which will be an UK LAN streamed live on twitch probably cast by UK casters.

                                        .GENGHIS.

                                          @Raymond, Their DotA2 head, Linus belongs to Sweden. But, they were heavily located in UK during their All-Greek roster days. Now, they switch between UK and Denmark as they have signed that 13abyKnight team which is basically a Swede-Dane stack. Their MD is British.

                                          MILNOR

                                            Every UK player is < 4.4k. How can there be a pro scene?

                                            TripleSteal-

                                              ik quite a lot of 5k players from there

                                              HaylingZar

                                                I know one 8k player he goes by the name of Kappastorm no one has ever met him but legends tell of his immense skill.

                                                swoleytrinity

                                                  Well, I did play in a couple little leagues here and there, insomnia etc but the UK is pretty meh when it comes to taking esports seriously , like ofc they play games just not competitively enough.

                                                  swoleytrinity

                                                    @kappastorm I really dunno what the hell this shit is http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2109088621

                                                    No radiance no items in like 40 minutes yet somehow you avoid death, but if you avoided death how didn't you get the cash?

                                                    HaylingZar

                                                      Its partly a cultural thing. People of ages 16-21 are pushed to go to uni, get a job etc. And cost of scholarship is so high in the UK (one of the top 10 most expensive countries in the world) that people don't want to squander thousands for a chance of success in a scene where so many have failed.

                                                      swoleytrinity
                                                        Relentless

                                                          https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2109088621
                                                          The problem is he completed drums, then did not fight. If he finished radiance before drums he probably wins the game.

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                                                          Mandalorian

                                                            UK players are garbage kids with bad attitude and no skill, that's why they are no pro players from there. There are maybe some exceptions, but havent seen any so far. Just try to win pub with UK player in your team, you think it's hard?

                                                            NO. It's impossible xD

                                                            TripleSteal-

                                                              ^i always applied this to russians and balcanians 3Head

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                                                              Zealous

                                                                Does UK has a league like NA has NEL?

                                                                GOHF

                                                                  I thought they were all busy eating black pudding, drinking tea, and pissing on the Scottish for proper Dota.

                                                                  Dire Wolf

                                                                    3. USA has a delusional idea that they're naturally the best at everything so they fight to prove that point.

                                                                    not delusional when it's true

                                                                    Zealous

                                                                      ^agreed

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                                                                        Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                                                          Why would anyone care about the Dota scene of a place they don't even live in? Do you care about Turkish Dota? Australia Dota? Lebanese Dota? No you don't and neither does anyone.

                                                                          the realm's delight

                                                                            i do care about lebanese dota
                                                                            someone has to represent mia khalifa u feel