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General Discussionhow to midlane invoker against a PA

how to midlane invoker against a PA in General Discussion
EnOc}{...Fog

    badly lost lane against a PA two games..really want to improve..3k MMR and SEA player..
    thnks in advance !
    http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2611025756
    this match is a showcase of typical SEA pub.no courier or support
    http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2610426961
    Nyx and slardar controlled the tempo in mid game and we won

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    COINCOLLECTOR

      Don't pick invo you weeb
      He is nerfed.
      You just wait to get hard carried by your team nothing else

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      Snu

        Get a wand. As first item.
        Creep aggro.
        Harass everytime he steps foot into the river.
        Be more agressive. At lvl 3-4, Invoker should kill PA everytime. SS (or Ice Wall if his blink is on CD), Cold Snap, and Forge Spirits will either kill him or kick him out of lane.

        I'd say you probably need to get a few clarity's/mango's throughout the laning stage, but keep him under constant pressure. You can stay in lane with just your Quas regen, but he doesn't have a luxury like that.

        If you don't totally outplay him, you will most likely end up losing lane, and need ganks from your supports. So just hope you are a better player mechanically than the opponent?

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          skywrath or pugna if u want mage hero

          Jacked

            I once went up pa mid and nobody expects a dagger spam. Well the only way is to not let him get u low. Lots of regen and trade to get him out of lane. U can't be passive. All normal skill scrubs are too passive in midland

            EnOc}{...Fog

              @IEATASS i didnt know that invo got nerfed -_-
              @Jacked and Snu thnks again.will work on my lane mechanics

              kr

                if ur competent on pa versus invoker u zone the invoker out of lane in 2 minutes

                Rain

                  yeah, this mid pa business is getting out of hand. Couple of daggers and she shits on shadow fiend too. He has no starting armor or strength how the fuck is this fair?

                  死の恐怖 Haseo

                    I picked zeus just now to counter mid lane pa and its work lul

                    Dire Wolf

                      pick other heroes who don't melt from dagger spam. Dk maybe, alch maybe. I'm not really sure but invoker and sf are pretty easy to bully out of lane.

                      Snu

                        ^Thats why I only like playing Invoker on the Radiant side (unless he is just a good pick that game). I am still clueless on what to do if you get bullied out of the lane on the Dire side. I know on the Radiant side you just farm your hard / medium camps. Can anyone help me with this? This = how to farm with Dire Invoker when you get bullied out of mid (without totally abandoning lane).