Meet me when Silencer stole all your intellect and you're there staying with 300 total manapool. Then tell me if he's useless. It's like TA, the gamechanging factor isn't his ulti, its his presence on the fight. Even if you won a teamfight 4-5 and Silencer was last to die - u didn't win that fight
What about Drow then? You don't need specific items to disable her ult, all you need is to stand nearby...
@BlurryBob
Silencer can only steal base intelligence.
Especially after change of skills he's become totally useless:
1)There r much better heroes to stop blackhole
2)U have to max 1 to have slow
3)No stun at all
4)Low armor in the beginning which is supposed to be compensated by 3.0 agility gain(volvo doesnt know that supports lack xp heh)
5)Weak skills overall
NEEDS MASSIVE BUFFS
Tell me which is worst:
a) you lost int to Silencer
b) pudge gained 2.5 str
c) Tresdin earned 10/14/18 damage
Depends... It sux to lose int if you are int hero. But it doesn't matter for other hero types. Also, Pudge and Lesbian Commander has no limits on their steroids, Silencer has limit.
silencer makes every hero almost useless for the duration of his silence.
of fucking course there will be items to counter it otherwise it's broken strong
^There are 6 items that can remove global silence, plus 1 that can remove normal silence. Don't you think that there are too many of them?
The thing that makes Global silence strong is that you have to build items to counter it which delays the items you really want. For Example as a Windranger you really want that aghs plus blink as early as possible but silencer forces you to either get an item that dispels silence and be less effective than normal early on, or you get your core items and then are useless every fight because you're silenced.
Its especially strong early on, before heroes have the items to counter it and when even carries are usually relying on spells in teamfights. Its also effective against supports for most of the game because they might not get the item to remove the silence until very late.
Also, Global silence goes through BKB. So if you wait for the enemy to activate BKB and then use silence that hero will still be silenced. It means that someone like invoker cant just buy a BKB to counter silencer, he will probably need another dispel as well, otherwise silencer can just wait until invoker pops BKB and then use Global Silence.
Silencer is weak against heroes that are naturally going to build items that remove silence (anyone that goes Manta or Diffusal) but is really good against heroes that want/need several other items first. These include Storm, Timbersaw, Wind, Phoenix, Tinker, QOP and so on. Even Invoker doesn't like being against Silencer.
^Greaves and euls does remove silence too. What is that +1 item?
And i'm talking about Global Silence. This spell is not strong. And need some buffs. Hero is in a good shape tho. Mb they can nerf other spells but Global definetly need some buf imo.
silencer in a voker fight is ok, in a riki fight, int heroes suffer when alone, known fact
The hero has a 54% WR, can we just not care and talk about how much of a buff puck and QoP need.
Manta, Diffusal, BKB, Lotus Orb, Euls and Guardian Grieves are the only items that can remove silences as far as I know. Don't know what the +1 is.
I don't think making Global Silence in-dispellable is a good way to buff it. Maybe reduce the cooldown slightly. If you buff it too much it makes it almost impossible to win a fight against a silencer. Its not like chrono or black hole where you can position yourself so that it doesn't catch you. It will always hit the entire team and that's what makes it potentially Overpowered if you buff it in the wrong way.
I don't think stolen intelligence is limited is it? Silencer gets the +2 regardless it's just that the target doesn't lose any intelligence if base int is 1 I believe.
Alot of int heroes are dead,but silencer isn't
He's a situational pick that excells by punishing casters that doesn't really buy purge items
@Bazenbelkioysa
Dominator can remove silence if you bring one of those Satyrs with you. But it doesn't work vs Global Silence because it silences your Satyr as well.
According to this theory we need to buff invoke. And every other spell. I mean, orchid, hex, abysal, a lucky mkb can stop you using your ult. And more. Geez ults are so underwhelming
you can use Global Silence after the guy's activated his BKB and then he's f*cked.
(int heroes like invoker or storm tend to buy bkb but not manta or diffusal etc.)
Diffusal with 40 mana burn is actually not terrible anymore on WR. And by +1 I think he meant linkens which can stop Silencer's 3rd spell Last word.
@ Soultrap That's why you also buy a Lotus orb, so you can remove the silence from your satyr and then use him to purge the silence off you.
@ Rocket Int steal works like you said. You always get +2 int even if the enemy only has 1 int left and they remain on 1 int.
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I saw this on my last game. We had Silencer and in team fights 3 enemy heroes were still able to use their spells. Invo-Spec and Rİki. Invo had a bkb so i think its ok for him to use spells. This is what bkb does. But Riki and Spec just used diffs and get rid pff global silence and this made me feel like this is not ok. I mean it would be ok that diff-manta-lotus orb dispell(or whatever) other silences but not global silence. The skill cd is insanely high and all they do is using 1 charge of diff or even using such short cd manta and lotus orb. For me Global Silence should be different from other silences and only bkb-spell immunity should work against him.
What u guys think? Dont u think this make silencer useless in many games and general?