General DiscussionTry hard vs raw Talent

EE says thanks

sumail too

is sumail naturally skilled though? even though he's young, he also started playing dota at a young age didn't he?

EE vs sumail ramzes would win. Try Hard and Talent.

no player is naturally a pro

everyone worked hard and tried hard

i dont think anyone half decent even thinks about comparing or just separating these two
u dont get dota skill naturally granted. no one does.

why do you believe you can tell those two things apart

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guys I'm not saying that SumaiL didn't work hard for how good he is. But we got to admit there are people who can easily pick up something. And some others need to try hard to become good at something. I got a friend who plays casually and sits at 5k mmr, some are at 3k. All of them don't try hard, so I think its fair to assume that the 5k player is naturally talented than the 3k player. But that doesn't mean the 3k will never reach 5k if he tries hard. Try hard and Talent will win any day though. I think those are the 9ks, but who knows..

talent is a fool's excuse

''i'm just not naturally good at dota"

i know 1 guy who got to 7k mmr 1.5 years after he STARTED dota.

is he talented? hell no.

he did the same tryhard shit that got me to high mmr, except he did it 10x more intense.