General DiscussionIs Battle Fury Juggernaut officially dead?

It depends. It's like bf on PA same stuff here. Situational and works well if you have space. But most important it depends on your playstyle. There are a lot of jug builds out there. I like bf it gives a lot of damage tho. Would build it!!!!

P.S. the most important thing of jug is ward anyway. You can build whatever you want as long as you are good at controlling ward you r gonna win games.

The main reason I'm asking is because we've seen pro and pub players building Mjollnir recently. Building both is really stupid as they are both farming items mostly.

Just think 1 thing. Did your team really really need you before 30-35 min. If yes build bf if no dont. Late game situation too :)

magnus is good hero

Rushing manta is better for me, if you wanted to buy bf, you should have pick am

Not in 3k :( feelsbad

BF > Maelstrom early in my opinion. Both item speed up your farm, but BF attack boost is very strong especially with Jugs criticial.

I'm trying to think of a hero other than am who builds bf now.

nobody

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ember? or veil is the way to go kek.

veil is the way to go

I think only ursa should go battlefury now

bfury ember looks like

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2901894541

im pretty sure if this guy just bought magic items we wouldve rolled over them. smh

Bf ursa is legit

https://www.dotabuff.com/players/278542944/matches?hero=ursa

Hotd into manta is the build rghtnow
Provides u great jungle sustain and more fghting capabilities

kunkka bf?

Riki, Void, Alche, Kunkka maybe
Ember BF is dead, the magic build is default now. Some people stick to old fashion, they want the EE sama power, but seriously magic ember comes online faster and stronger.

I think they take Maelstrom now because

STACKING IS DEAD

And when spinning, you can't do cleave damage (Regular attacks can be performed during Blade Fury, but they deal no damage to enemies being affected by Blade Fury.), but you can proc chain lightning.
You proc when Omnislashing too D:

Wrong ,you can cleave wih spin and it deals full dmg and can crit

basically there is no time to farm with a battlefury, you are not in fighting shape with just a battlefury

But if you somehow can get the time to farm battlefury is still good to go for right?

I have 75% win rate as juggernaut,I only play him by rush BF

Edit:and Jungle with him

^ But licetea you only play Ursa, Lycan, WK and 3 PTs seems good on Jugg huh

@Xignum wuuuut....

Xignum you probably mean towers... I can't hit any damge with Jugg spinning.

o u mean the cleave damage ok sorry my bad

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^^What you said?Are you praised my incredible Juggernaut?

Well consider this:

Pros bf:
- More damage (better crits)
- Better regen
- Cleave works on magic immunity
- Cleave is there every hit
- Cut trees
- More damage to creeps

Pros mael/mjol:
- A lot more attack speed (a lot more crits)
- A lot cheaper (mael at least)
- Lightning procs go in all directions and can also hit targets further away
- Mjol can give lightning shield

^ pls add that cleave ignores armor when mjol is somewhat blocked by magic resistance

I think BF is nice only problem is it takes time to farm it and is this vulnerable to a snowball/early push strategy. If you know that your team is competent enough to secure space and stall for time it is worthwhile to consider it. Unfortunately you do not have this luxury in pub games when you can be paired up with idiots who does not understand what you want to do.

My 2 cents
Gecko