General DiscussionDesolator on Chaos Knight

No

How many is quite a few CK players? The only Desolator CK I've ever seen is the currently the number one guide. And he bought it 30 seconds before the game ended (probably as a joke)

There is that first one, and there was a couple last week as well. I've also seen them in some of my matches.

pure damage item
on an illusion hero

uh oh

That's a great point gold experience requiem. I play the hero quite a bit but have only played him a couple of times this patch. I hate the nerf to reality rift, it feels so underwhelming now.

go look at this guy

https://www.dotabuff.com/players/83636940

when i got matched with him his ck looked like this

looks like he lost his way recently

There is rlly no reason to go deso on ck. u have armlet as a way more effecient damage item, and one that gives you stuff like armor, and echo sabre for mana regen and strength and extra hit and shit. There rlly is no reason imo to not go treads armlet echo into heart/skadi/ac/bkb/se

I think the rift is buffed tho,its a guaranteed minus armor, although he cant harass well now in the lane.

in what universe is armlet a more efficient damage item

i think your ban would be far more justifiable than permabanning phantom riki

More effecient than deso on an illusion hero. U get +20ish damage on all illusions and 70 ish on ur main hero. Its also cheaper than deso by a lot.

i dont htink armlets the build right now but i agree that its better than deso (lol)

echo is better than armlet, because of the crit change.

Idk i still feel like the item is too good to pass up. Is echo rlly enough?

echo is a better build, cause it makes you tankier, gives you a slow, doubles a attack, and most important, gives amazing mana regen for a hero that has a shitty mana pool and mana regen, like sven, tiny, even riki.

Ye i know echo is good my point is that i buy both. Armlet and echo into a bigger item like heart or whatever. Do u just replace armlet with a helm or something?

When I play CK, i go Armlet then Threads and rush Heart right away.

No you go Midas first

You sure they're not just buying deso at the end of the game from the enemy fountain?

Armlet before treads!!!!!
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does a six-slotted ck still have an armlet (usually)?

no

I'm pretty sure that they aren't buying it right at the end, with the exception of one of the recent guides. JDF8 that is a super weird build...Silver Edge and Linken's?? Anyway, I do find myself buying armlet and echo a lot of games but not all.

Linkens gives mana regen and silver edge is a good item. Nice all stats. Its different but not super weird.

silver edge is normal

@gold experience requiem

In every single univers, even in those armlet doesn't exist.

So is silver edge the build in higher skill brackets? What is the justification for building the item besides the stats it gives?

https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/chaos-knight/guides

its not super common, theres 0 people building it here

its just a pickoff + stat item that gives 30 ias. you can hide your illusions and rift from invis to oneshot people and it makes you at least partially effective without phantasm

its not amazing, jsut good, situationally

when i spammed void i had a lot of games where i built silver edge instead of manta because it was better. a lot of people probably wouldve called me a massive retard if i didnt win almsot every game

So in a game where you would build silver edge on CK are you playing position 1? Or a different one?

anything other than position 1 ck is a gimmick isn't it? I think you would go silver edge depending on your opponents.

depending on how they are playing also

if their carry is split pushing and/or their team isnt 100% 5 manning ck can oneshot a shitton of heroes from invis

nice build JDF8 i love it , initiating on the right target is huge , and stats from silver edge is ok