General DiscussionWhen do you go Diffusal on Jugg over Mjollnir or both after Manta?

when you need to purge something badly? idk

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I'm always afraid of Jugg with Diffusal instead of Maelstrom/Mjollnir
With Blink and Manta he fucks up support in fights using Difussal. It makes Ghost and Euls futile, since people get those to counter omnislash

ive heard that diffusal is an item you get if you want to take fights, if you farm you get other stuff.

But mjonir give more damage than diffu. You can go mael to blink tjougj

Too bad jugg got nerf heavily with healing ward and hotd

He's still good as always

i have been building HoTD on jugg ever since 7.00 i think that HoTD is a really bad item now and u have to disregard it and stop buildign jugg with it, just rush yasha and opt for manta or sny then go maelstrom / diffusal and then straight up bfly and slash enemy woo

As much as ive watched arteezy, he has gotten mael/mjoll most of the time

Ok first of all diffusal on jugg is pretty good
And secondly why do we have the same profile

top 25 jugg here and i build diffusal when the enemy team got heroes that can run easily (slark gets pretty rekt by diffusal) or if they start going for euls/ghost but if i don't have much problem with those items or the enemy team got slow heroes that i can chase them easily i get mjollnir cuz it makes you farm faster and gives more damage

Mael to farm, diffu to fight.

How the fuck does diffu makes you squishier btw
It gives agi while mjo gives damage and some "dont touch me or u get zaped lul"

I'm saying if you get mjollnir + diffusal you're kinda squishy, I didn't word it well. Because that gold could go towards an abyssal, skadi or butterfly.

JUST GET ECHO + AGHS + MAELSTORM LIKE MY TEAMMATE DID AT MY LAST GAME DUDE #HAHA . sorry , need to let out
Diffusal let you solo kill easily , and dayum those mana burn with his low bat. its actually draining mana so much.

manta + difu for those heroes that need mana , like medusa , AM (u can drain his mana to 0 , seriously) , necro (purge his 2nd)

mjo and manta don't even let you get 2k hp. Which mean you are squishy lul bws

but manta and your skill 1 make u elusive as fk

Has someone tried drums on jugg? they got buffed a bit and hotd got nerfed and i actually liked drums some patches ago already on him but i don´t know how good they are on him right now.

Active: Endurance - Gives bonus +25 attack speed and +13% movement speed to allies in a 900 radius.
Passive: Swiftness Aura - Gives bonus movement speed to allies in a 900 radius.
Multiple instances of Swiftness Aura do not stack.
+ 6 Intelligence
+ 6 Strength
+ 3 Agility
+ 3 Damage
+ 50% Mana Regeneration
If they make it plus 8 or 7 to damage and stats i will buy it but the item is meh. Hotd used to give around 8 or 6 armor if you want it

I've been thinking of soul ring again
But then I remember they dont fucking give any shit to illusions like aquila

I had my mana burned by jugg as AM ._.

Diffusl give 70 damage, 25 agi, purge, for just 3300 gold item

And yah, mana burn work when u blade fury

don't focus on one build, make sure you adjust your item build depending on the enemy picks and itemization.

I think diffusal is way better manfight, right clicker build while mjollnir is for team fights or if you guys need aoe desperately. Going both would be risky I think unless you had a skadi in between or something.

Even if you have skadi going both seems inefficient

Inefficient how? What end game items would jug want instead? He doesn't build crit usually no daedulus, he only goes mkb usually to counter dodge, butter is good but you can still fit that into the build, or abyssal. Boots, manta, diffusal, mjollnir, skadi, abyssal/butter seems fine.

Is the buff to battlefury worth getting for farming games?