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General Discussioncan valve change wr to agi hero

can valve change wr to agi hero in General Discussion
9'Mill

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    eclessia

      Nyx is agi lul

      bearcat0611

        yeah those two feel a little backwards

        casual gamer

          eclessia

            It's for balance reasons
            You wanna see wr running around with skadi butterfly satanic?

            arin

              ^ maybe

              eclessia

                Alright I'll keep that in mind for the next seatard stack

                bearcat0611

                  I mean thats what I usually do when I play wr

                  Beks

                    thats good idea

                    bearcat0611

                      actually though why not go satanic. focus fire seems like it would have amazing synergy with it.

                      9'Mill

                        although it kinda sad the it is a single traget you need aghs to make use of it maybe go diffusal skadi blink pike phase

                        眞鍋

                          battlefury nyx :v

                          Dire Wolf

                            I don't think this would be a buff cus attack speed on agility items is mostly wasted on her cus of her ult. Aghs is still core, proc items like maelstrom/mjollnir is probably still best way to go.

                            Then compare +dmg items straight up to agility ones. Daedulus is still better than butterfly for winranger cus she has dodge and flutter on her windrun and she has attack speed on ult so daedulus is way more practical.

                            Deso and mkb are still much better items than s&y or manta. Those items the move speed is somewhat wasted cus again, windrun, and the attack speed doesn't matter when ult is active whereas a deso will shred people during ult. And you're only talking about a 16 dmg swing on each item anyway.

                            Hurricane pike, if you're getting this solely for agility dmg then you're doing it wrong anyway. It's 10 dmg difference if she was agility hero.

                            Only three items I can think of that would be way better, aquila cus duh, but that's minor since it's an early game item, diffusal and eblade. Diffusal again the attack speed is sort of wasted but burning mana at +500 attack speed? Amazing. That would be core now.

                            Eblade I don't think would be, cus she still isn't a stats hero but a +dmg one and you wouldn't eblade into powershot, not a good combo.

                            However you lose bloodthorn doing this, losing 25 dmg on bloodthorne. So in the end idk if it's better at all and possibly worse when you look at bloodthorn loss.

                            And whoever said butter, skadi, satanic, skadi has 25 agility and 25 int... satanic has +50 dmg... only agility item is butter.

                            bearcat0611

                              yeah she just feels like an agility hero not an int one.

                              天火

                                As for diffusal, you have the manabreak anyways and there is also a small INT gain, a minor one but still it's there. So I guess it can be situational, against WK or Dusa?

                                Kryptnyt

                                  It's nice to have some autoattack heroes in the int pool for diversity reasons. And mechanically it's totally fine. Thematically, it seems a little off too, to have someone act so dumb all the time and be an "intelligence" hero, but if you think about it, she's probably got savant syndrome or something, which is pretty cool.

                                  doc joferlyn simp

                                    retards, no one realizes windranger basher rush master build smh

                                    Shou

                                      Wr isnt the problem
                                      Why tf is venomancer an agility hero, even nyx wtf.

                                      Cancer Malaria

                                        Maybe because Drow is already an agility hero and valve are like "we need an archer for int hero too"

                                        doc joferlyn simp

                                          then where the fuck is our archer for strength? huskar and io are the only ranged strs iirc

                                          Bill Cutting

                                            How is io a strength hero tho

                                            ImagineDodong

                                              @Drawn from deep within. and @Daddy well only Icefrogs knows, we can't oppose what the all knowing one knows and wants.

                                              doc joferlyn simp

                                                io needs that str to use overcharge well. if io becomes int he'll become squishier even now and render him unplayable. whod want to play a flying ball of semen that gets bursted by any spell in the game. io is stronger when the fight drags on, to rob him of the ability to stay in the fights is paramount to deleting the hero imo

                                                Dire Wolf

                                                  Nyx would probably be op as int cus he builds int items and has a percent booster on his ult.

                                                  Veno idk he doesn't do right click dmg either way

                                                  Player 404335202

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                                                    ImagineDodong

                                                      :thinking:

                                                      Shou

                                                        U know veno has over 3 agi gain

                                                        Small Song

                                                          Veno can actually do quite a bit of dmg with his right click. His passive wouldn't make quite as much sense if it was on an int. hero imo. In the right lineup he can right click people to death via kiting.

                                                          bearcat0611

                                                            changing IO to something other than strength wouldn't change anything but what attribute he gets his attack damage from. If you leave all his stat gain values the same it wouldnt change IO at all.

                                                            pingwin

                                                              Io penix are str heroes

                                                              9'Mill

                                                                like why the fuck razor in the hero list

                                                                9'Mill

                                                                  this game is fucked up

                                                                  LucaManny

                                                                    and why the fuck valve release arc warden just to nerf him to hell