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pos 1 and pos 2 impact in General Discussion
Aethoeix

    Safe lane got nerfed to hell but can u still be as impactful as pos 2 when u r playing pos 1?
    Is it true that pos 1 has really low impact in constrast with pos 2 atm?

    死の恐怖 Haseo

      mid is pos 1

      Player 404335202

        haHaHaHaHaha ?

        white boy summer

          dude wtf are u talking about, numbers don't represent the lanes. 1 is not safelane, 2 is not mid.. pos 1 midders have been a thing since alch/naga/invo mids, since they need a lot of space and u cant put another greedy hero on safelane. pos1 does and will always have a big impact, safelane on the other hand is more of a "shit on lane and let your supports go mid" in pro games. that being said in low pubs nothing really changed, maybe they will realize that mid is pos 1 after like 2 years (like ppl still go pudge mid sometimes when it was a ti1-2 thing)

          CNP

            Sadly true pos 1 from safelane is rare these days. Fuck playing that nerdy shit like Veno/razor/ursa though I'd rather suicide.

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            ETd

              Western teams usually defined 1-5 as position, 1 being carry, 2 mid, 3 offlaner, 4 greedy support, 5 hard support. It was Chinese teams who defined 1-5 as farm priority, 1 being highest and 5 being lowest, which is the most commonly used definitions of positions nowadays. So mid can be pos 1 if its like an Alch or w/e. Current meta, mid is pos 1, they get majority of the farm, safelaner is just a midgame fighter now.

              Gazz   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

                1 & 2 position can interchange. 1 and 2 are called "Core". They are either mid or safelane.
                Position 3 is called "offlane".
                Position 4 and 5 are called "supports".

                Aethoeix

                  @Helsinki Underground

                  I get enemy dual offlane with lich in every single game
                  It really looks like picking hc not worth it anymore
                  Ur sups just leave u solo vs enemy offlane and go mid wards, gg

                  Looks like u r better off picking utility carries now who can solo lane, who become strong early e.g. mk, veno, vengi, necro

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                  Cнейкмонгер

                    feels like if you are picking a hard carry in 2-3k pubs you need to either be ahead of your enemy in terms of skill (winning the lane when you are solo against an aggressive dual/triple offlane; or coming back well) or luck (you get a competent support player in team, who helps you get a decent start and punishes other lanes; or the enemy offlane is shit), or you are just going to forever rely on your mid.

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                      1, 2 and 3 can interchange.

                      You may put midgame-fighter safelane and top-priority farming mid. Like Pugna safelane and Viper mid.

                      You may put farming mid, core offlane and safelane is more like a semisupporting role.

                      Like Void+Lich offlane, mid Sniper and Pugna+Ogre safelane.

                      Void is offlane and pos. 2 farming.
                      Sniper is mid and pos. 1 farming.

                      Like, positions are more like farming priorities.

                      You may have a greedy offlaner like Timbersaw/Brood/Void be your pos. 1-2 core and safelane is just some midgame fighter.

                      evy

                        1, 2 and 3 can interchange.

                        Seals the deal

                        Shou

                          I mean, Lanes don't dictate that, say u pick axe and they pick drow and lich, something axe will have a hard time against, then they may match up axe in the safelane against the enemy offlaner, and put the safelane carry + support duo or trio in the offlane
                          What matters is farm priority and matchup

                          Desolate

                            shit i dont understand nothing

                            Desolate

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