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General DiscussionTips for improving Mid Game Decision-making?

Tips for improving Mid Game Decision-making? in General Discussion
ma-ku hemburger country

    Other than just playing more, how do I improve on my mid game decision-making? After watching my own replays I feel like I'm pretty shit at it. Sometimes I play too safe when I could have pushed a low hp tower and other times I think I overstretch. What are things I should take note of/keep in mind?

    basement :)

      Your bracket is really unpredictable. I suggest just playing as risky as possible until people start punishing it.

      🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

        play as risky as humanly possible, even if they punish it

        Blurrybob

          Play as risky as possible, if they punish it play much riskier

          зачем я начал поиск

            Maybe work on farming/building the right items/skilling right skills first?
            Like... You have insane itembuilds, very low average farm for a pos. 1-2 spammer and very low KDA.

            It's as if you play not Jug/Sven/Lina, but roaming Earth Spirit all the time.

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            StanceWorks

              Simple set some wards where u want to push objectives. If all missing then dont push into t2 alone.
              If you see them elsewhere then take the tower, why not.

              Cнейкмонгер

                just pick antimage and splitpush non-stop during midgame. they try to kill your team you take t3 tower.

                Jacked

                  If you're still figuring this out (most people are still figuring this balance out) pick a few heroes u are comfortable with and test this boundary. You haven't played enough to understand what you can do/how the enemy will react. You'd need to try to push the boundaries until you get punished (and better players will respond differently so you need to keep learning how different players react ) that's the only way to improve and keep climbing. Play one hero and practice finding this balance

                  Jacked

                    Pick tower hitters.

                    evy

                      Push your boundaries. Learn from each death.

                      Jacked

                        Unless you're like me and don't learn from deaths.

                        ma-ku hemburger country

                          I'm trying to work on my gpm/xpm at the moment. I totally agree that sometimes I find myself walking around too much unsure of what to do, whether to take an objective, push out lanes or farm. Which is where the inefficiency comes in. Like in mid game at my level when enemies are mostly missing and the only wards you have are the ones you plant yourself it feels risky to be pushing out a lane or even farming the jungle. And my teammates are usually spread all over the map farming at this point. Sometimes I find myself farming blindly while nothing much is happening or getting caught out. It's also hard to rally my team to smoke in for a gank or something. How do I improve on this?

                          Most of the stuff I learn comes off pro replays. I try to see what they do and figure out why they did it or why they built a certain item. But I think there's only so much I can learn from it because games play out totally different at my level. And in the mid game before teamfights break out and everyone's just farming I find I can get pretty 'lost'.

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                          evy

                            Learn how to manipulate tp cooldowns and abuse other downtimes. Know heroes' power spikes and item timings, play accordingly. Know when to rat, know when to fight, know how to fight, know how to itemize. I'm honestly too lazy and unsure to help out here tbh, just check out high mmr replays, they're definitely more reliable than some rusty 3.8k trash's words

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                            🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                              there's literally no balance to this, play as risky as you humanly are allowed or you lose.

                              whenever i see low mmr players try to balance it out they end up being afk half the time and doing nothing.

                              play as aggressive as you can, and always try to create a snowball, if you fail then figure out why you failed to snowball and do better next time to play even more active and aggressive.

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                              evy

                                there's literally no balance to this, play as risky as you humanly are allowed without dying needlessly or you lose*

                                🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                  nah, go die so you can learn to survive by just positioning better, rather than not making that play.

                                  there's basically almost no difference between taking a bad play vs positioning yourself better in that play.

                                  as long as you're not doing something retarded like running solo into 3+ people(unless you're farmed up) then everything else could be possible.

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                                  evy

                                    Eh, I was talking about proper core gameplay, not learning.

                                    🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                      well, you cant bake a pie before looking at the recipe

                                      ma-ku hemburger country

                                        Oh okay I see. Thanks a lot guys :D

                                        StanceWorks

                                          Best tip anyone here will give you is quit dota.

                                          BlackXargon

                                            ^ agree. Learn from me

                                            evy

                                              ^ agree. Learn from me

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                                              edgy names + anime pfp 1only

                                                I quit dota btw haHAA

                                                Jacked

                                                  Rofl. I thought he quit

                                                  Jacked

                                                    All the Dota quitters with the sub 50% wr. Lol

                                                    ma-ku hemburger country

                                                      But but- I like moba ._.
                                                      I actually started out playing Vainglory then my friends introduced me to dota halfway through my A2 exams. Rip A2 results.

                                                      evy

                                                        At least I quit with 55% across both account

                                                        Jacked

                                                          You were about to drop into 40% territory like me. Good think u quit before the shame

                                                          evy

                                                            I'm using my intellect inefficiently

                                                            Sia

                                                              quit dotabuff too good for ur health

                                                              ma-ku hemburger country

                                                                Actually my wr doesn't bother me too much atm, even tho I know it's pretty shitty. As long as I learn something and improve from every game I'm okay with it. Eventually as I get better I guess it will go up :p

                                                                arin

                                                                  yeah that's a good approach

                                                                  Stentorian

                                                                    no one can teach you this stuff. It's something you need to learn for yourself from actually playing, and analyzing your replays and from pro games.