General DiscussionThoughts on super-urn?

apparently pros have gone boots wand vessel on supports

if it is good for them then maybe it is good?

the thing is, the item doesn't have a shit buildup towards nothing, it has great utility, is slot efficient, and provides supports with many things they want, which would explain why pros seem to prioritize it over getting big items

aaaaaand it kills necro

for a lot of heroes vitbooster+lace is LIT and then you can rebuy lace

i can already see people buying it instead of blademail against luna/od though, rip pubs

oh god a 3k gold item with great stats counters alch and necro hah

that item is too strong i swear

i see my team spectre build that and doing well

I think HP regen/heal reduction are going to be nerfed down to about 40% there is no way it stays at 70% it was probably just an incentive for people to buy it or something

that item is too strong i swear

I think it’ll get a nerf before the new ranked come out.
Item is broken

It actually destroys certain heroes
The only one who does ok against it who heals is huskar cuz he can purge it with his ulti

It's amazing, it scales suoer well into late game, has amazing stats for supports, which support doesn't want wind lace and turn down hp?

Has nice build up that includes the urn, so you can also build only urn and just later upgrade it
Scales with kaya also, personally I find kaya-lens the new support go-to, and adding a vessel definitely synergies with it

And also I think it's great against huskar, yes he can purge it, but it also decrease his heal and lifesteal

Overrated. It's still v.expensive & good vs only certain heroes. Not to mention u need to get those charges. If it was't broken why would u get it? It might need a slight nerf, but I think it's ez to overnerf it. It's similar to Atos - u but it because it's OP, but if it wasn't OP u wouldn't buy it.

why the fucking fuck would you buy kaya on a support

you don't even get it on cores

its not really expensive because the stats are useful for people who buy it (supports) so you would probably buy it regardless. im not sure if you would prefer it over things like force staff or glimmer cape but its not overrated.

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I think you should get at least one core item first like force staff/glimmer/blink in which you could help your teammates more during clash

apparently pros have gone boots wand vessel on supports

I think it's not a support item. It's too expensive & in 95% of games u would rather get force/glimmer or other stuff. It's a roam item or situational for carry/offlane. I think most roamers should go for it.

Vs void,alch,husk,dk,morph it gud itm

feels super good on SB.

when you got the lvl 20

400+ charge speed, tranquil boots, and the vessel you cross the map in 5 seconds its hilarious

Berry good

^you know that your movement speed doesn't effect your charge speed right?

buy it asap vs huskar

RIP Mek

it's op

Movement speed does amplify the after charge Greater Bash damage though.
Hence why 1-1-3 results in more damage than 2-0-3.

Great item, I always rush it on roamers like SB and ES, especially if the other team relies on healers. It's also very good if you're a healer yourself as it amplifies the healing by a ton, think of Dazzle and shit. Imo it's core on a lot of pos 4 and 5 heroes.

it’s lit on wisp

Yeah wisp love that item not only for active,but item still too expensive for a lot of high mmr io players,they do urn only and prefer get glimmer which i fully understand