Dang right the refraction, one more question tho, HOW ABOUT SNIPER?? That hoho haha just spam level 3 shrapnel abd guy didn't even care i deny every range creep, does it mean i cannot solo kill sniper in laning phase?
You can't.
A very careful SF will just focus last hitting and denying all the creeps as posible. Making no room for farm for you.
If were talking about killing potential, Tinker, Zeus, TA can do the trick.
Still, SF is easy to gank (if you can order your team though). Imagine if your a Invoker. If SF is missing, he is in the jungle. 2 stunner supports + sunstrike is more than enough to kill a SF.
If ganking him not an option, accept the fate that SF will outfarm you. Just try not be behind the networth as posible.
I've had good results with huskar vs SF
Bring plenty of regen and you can outsustain and box out SF in the entire early game provided you have a little vision to see incoming ganks
i guess ta does much better in the laning stage against him and its hard to recover
How ever if u euls ta and use requiem underneath her then ta dies instantly ( even she has refraction on )
I find that long range/blink stunners really help. Interrupt his ult and he's kind of fucked, after that.
sf euls ult kills ta through refraction? how? i didnt know that....
euls purges->no refreaction on ta
I used viper against sf on mid once, before sf was nerfed though, he just nuked shit out of me everytine I try to fight, viper skill only become deadly at if he is lvl 3 and got lvl 2 poison attack, and SF raze hurts so much even if only 1 lvl
if im not mistaken sf wins pretty much any mid matchup in 1v1 (lol at ppl suggesting bone, hes low hp enough to die to triple razes and he is also very slow hero), heroes like ta or viper can just apply pressure if your supports help or maybe trade hits or deny
No u cant win 1vs1 lane against sf ever. That mothafcker valve staff always buff this shit.
"high" valve staff : Hey my brother, we'll talk about sf. He has 6 skill and 4 of them was ridiculous stackable nuke. How if we add broken talent like 10% spell amp at lvl10?.., oh and 40ms too because he so easy to gank. To make it more broken we add 40%cd reduction to make he better lifestealer because that 15scd bullshit bkb cd. It will be more fun and fairplay right?
Staff B : whatever man..im tired
No wonder dota2 player always decreasing. That fat gaben always hiring stupid staff and always keep mothafcker same mistakes over and over again
Fun your ass. so much cancer, scripter, trashtalker..how this bullshit even fun?!
Dudes sniper destroy sf just dont go shrapnel ofc but go for range and hit him every time u see him
euls purges->no refreaction on ta
no wonder my sf sucks. i actually had no idea lmao.
SF ulti is dealt with 16 different instances if your target is right beneath you though, but they are dealt at the same time. I don't know exactly how Refraction interacts with that, but I'll asume SF ulti first takes out 5 refraction charges (1 is already taken out by eul's landing damage) and then TA is damaged by the remaining 11 instances. Can someone test this though?
thats what i thought. eul cannot purge refraction but then this guy above said it can, so i got confused. didnt know people spread false information on a dota forum. so someone call please tell me, how sf eul ult kills TA as mentioned above?
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So yesterday i ask about how to be a better sf player, interestingly I'm wondering what mid hero counter sf the most? Does sf truly has weakness? Can i always 1st pick it?