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General DiscussionAbout Juggernaut

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xDeprived

    Hi Friends!

    I'm new in the game (started january but i have dota 1 background), just a normal skill sub 2k player. Just wanted to learn more about Juggernaut and hopefully i could get some friendly and useful advise from expert carry. I plan to spam the hero to hopefully climb up.There's too many suggested guide and i wanted to know which one would work for my bracket. Do i stick with my current item build? In what situation do i have to use diffusal, SB or nullifier? is BKB or Butterfly a must item for him on the current meta?

    Thanks in advance! Peace.

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    Hiken

      Jugger is good but in my opinion u can climb with other heros easily,riki is as op as fuck right now and clinz,people in ur bracket dont buy detection most of the time and dont play around the supports.but back to question,basically now daya people want to get bf oh him,u either go phase when u need chase,treads when u need the hardcarry mode or extra bit tankiness.alwayys get aquila early game,its really good on him.after that i usually go for yasha.then u go either bkb or other big items.dont play jugg vs ursa it really hurts.and also dont try to out farm am with jugg u wont do it if u get bf at same time.also jugg can go toe to toe with many carries but tb is esp mention,try to take map control over his team early,and win the game before 40 min or u'll have hard time against him.also u can watch some of miracles pub juggernauts games it will help a lot.last thing always use move command+q so u dont get juked.

      Hoshi

        i have tips for you, pick offlane , becuz yes obviously all ur etam will pick carry, the hero for this i think the best atm is doom(to destroy am, morph user), pangolier, and necrophos(for str heavy opponent)

        concernedmate

          i spammed lycan from 1.5k to 3.3k, with some jugg spam in between(about 40 matches)
          just go tread bf sny, as long as you farm fast enough, you will get an ez win. once i literally destroy them by just farming creep in front of them

          Potato Marshal

            He's especially good in lower brackets because of how difficult he is to kill without coordination or planning. General tips based on your matches:

            -level up your healing ward over your crit, one value point is enough, it's amazing at level 1 compared to other crits, but scales terribly per level
            -don't buy crit items on him
            -you need an initiation tool, could be shadow blade, could be blink dagger, you just need something to approach the enemy without them being able to react

            Use chatwhell=mute

              -you need an initiation tool, could be shadow blade, could be blink dagger, you just need something to approach the enemy without them being able to react
              no u need movement speed item. sb and dagger are not crucial for him.

              NO_Electricity

                jugger isn't really good i don't get why so many people pick
                PS:i know his not bad but his not a solid pick either

                Hiken

                  In current meta at3-5k jugg tb void are to go carries for sure

                  Sukuna

                    First pick jugg, ppl don't know how to counter him in 2k. Get q blade, stick from side shop. Try denying as much as u can. If u have a support with slow or stun kill enemy offlane. For build phase boots~b fury~manta(if enemy has silence or generally good for farming)/sny(for tanking up or chasing)~shadow blade/blink~butterfly~basher/skadi/mkb~nullifier/linkins.
                    I've been spamming jugg for mmr and raised 500mmr in archon 3 so I can tell from experience that jugg is really insane carry for 2k cause ppl don't know how to deal with spin and omni. Just end games with 3 big items if you can by pushing early. Good luck my fellow jugg spammer

                    Eddie

                      OP - Failed smurf detected

                      xDeprived

                        Thanks all for the tips! @eddie what is a smurf?

                        Tribo

                          It's your mom gay

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                            xDeprived

                              I see why nothing good to say. U dont play jugg. U know nothing about jugg.

                              Mode Idiot

                                go furry, shadow blade/dager, travel. than farm lane and push the tower. if the enemy come to gank u, just spin(2nd skill) and travel to others lane(push tower and farm lane). if u have ss, go solo kill enemy with your ulti. repeat it. than u will get sange yasha or manta. after that u can buterfly, mkb/skadi/abysal. than satanic . thx

                                moriwooper

                                  I don't think you should prioritize item builds. But I think you should learn each impact an item will bring to your games. As each match have their own lineups you should know what items are more beneficial for you in that specific game.

                                  For example :
                                  -Aquila not just give decent stats and mana regen it also gives you more potential for early push (aura)

                                  -blink vs shadow blade vs stats

                                  -etc

                                  I just started watching BSJ coaching sessions on youtube recently. I personally like his content because it is very informative. I highly recommend watching his content if you have the time to do it.

                                  xDeprived

                                    Thank u mates.i find it helpful in most common situations

                                    Mode Idiot

                                      how about my answer? its helpful for u?

                                      xDeprived

                                        Absolutely. Thank u my friend!

                                        xDeprived

                                          I saw your jugg matches.impressive. im taking it from the expert.

                                          Tribo

                                            this guy is a retarded smurf rofl

                                            xDeprived

                                              I dont understand whats wrong with this👆🖕and what hes saying.So its true that in every dota forums ul find unwelcoming unhelpful repliers in dota forums .Dont care of what you say tribo.You trying to be relevant on this forum? Try harder.

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                                              pingwin

                                                abuse spin tp

                                                Eddie

                                                  Dude you're obviously not a new dota player so stop acting like one. Sftu and accept that you're a failed smurf and change the question to 'hey guys so I made a new smurf account and calibrated sub 2k how can I improve my dota skills I like to play juggernaut'

                                                  xDeprived

                                                    Dude u gotta prove what ur saying. You are Irrelevant to this topic.

                                                    Muhammad Sumbul

                                                      An early aquila is great on jugg. Put more points into your healing ward than crit(1 level is enough in early game) ,works wonder during teamfights.Bf is especially strong on him as his crit gives him insane clearence and combined with omnni its a pain in the ass.Stack jungle and spin to clear creeps. And when not getting decent amount of farm then I nomally go drums and engage more in teamfights and try to take towers.After BF you can go for more bigger items and if you are playing drums then i suggest you to go manta but if you think you can catch up on farm then bf works too. .Hurts to see a fellow crusader playing in normal skill bracket lol

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                                                      xDeprived

                                                        Thanks mate. I just calibrated and i was expecting to be a Herald lol.Its amazing to see a fellow crusader in HS/VHS. Your matches with jugg is insane.you are awesome.

                                                        Mode Idiot

                                                          Guys, i spam juger from 1.6k mmr, and now i am 4.3k mmr with ancient 1 medal. Hope u can use juger and increase your mmr. I trust u.

                                                          xDeprived

                                                            👆 this is simply how u motivate someone to win.!

                                                            IXXI

                                                              bro..you just played party games to 4.3k lol. your solo mmr is still pretty low, sub 3k

                                                              Mode Idiot

                                                                Bro. I will play solo after this. I am focuss in party. Thx for remind me

                                                                FleurDeLys

                                                                  Hahahahahha
                                                                  He’s in Low priority xD