This is undeserved nerf for Arc Warden wtf midas nerf from 200 ti 180 to 160 because everyone start buying it at every hero what the fuxk. They arent aware that midas nerf affect warden -,-
Just nerf the exp gain because that's the reason why everybody buying it sjjdejej
Just nerf the exp gain because that's the reason why everybody buying it
Do you actually believe people buy midas for the xp? I would say most people dont even know about the xp.
sven got nerfed so hard....
well fuck icefrog. he is probably blind that nerfes a dead core like sven again
Surprisingly,viper nerf were quite tame. Most of the time you were always gonna spread your nethertoxin to cover more area so by disabling their dmg to stack is pretty meh,maybe it will slow his jungling a little bit alongside the mana increase.
Yeah, Viper is still strong. Not a big nerf considering how OP he was.
I'm mad they didn't buff MoM at all.
So what now? Offlaners have a better time with the deny XP changes ?
I can see lot of nerfs so games tend to be more long?
Is void offlane back to meta?
Qop offlane considerable?
Pl is a pretty great mid game carry esp when you can secure him free farm. I guess he comes online than most other carries now?
Sucks about kunnka, is he still gonna be a top tier mid hero after that huge tidebringer nerf?
Also is drums ember still the thing?
Viper nerf isn't tame, and increase to 100 mana is very big considering it's 5 scnds CD, and people actually had a hard time ganking Viper because defensive nether toxin can be spammed at Viper's current position and by the time they arrived at viper position, he spits the 2nd nethertoxin which deals massive dmgpl
I forgot to mention this, but I assume the biggest problem for viper overwhelming win rates is he can farm jungle so fast, so nerfing he manacost and damage not stacking is on point.
It's like old meepo who already at lvl 20 while all other people are lvl 12-15
@james drum nerf are directed to viper, his build in 7.21b are usually drum, greaves, solar crest.
Kunkka nerf also pretty deserved though, his early game are so strong with extra 40 dmg at denying, and his splash hurts so much early game since u have low armor
I think that midas became more valuable because it is better cost effective wise than it was and the midas meta will continue for a while - there was always benefit of gold+XP, but it granted AS lower than pretty much any other AS item.
Now in this regard midas is just better than it was before - it gives more AS than Yasha (or SAY/KAY), orchid, PT, similar AS as Silver Edge, Manta... So there are just few items providing more AS than Midas - hyperstone based items (3) & butterfly. That is it.
Even when you are 6slotted, 40 AS is just still decent. And you get faster moonshard/buyback than with SAY for example. So I think midas will stay in meta untill they nerf the AS again, so it is solely XP/gold based item.
CM wasn't changed, still trash. +20 Freezing Field armor is nothing if the enemy team always has stuns that can go past Glim Cape.
Can someone please explain to me on here how the hell BH did not get an enourmous nerf. Along with Tiny and Furion he ruins most of my pubs. A meta where BH and NP are this strong is just so fucking crap.
Also they should change cost of dust to 100 for 2. And give it it's own slot like TP has that way everyone buys it and everyone can afford it.
Wtf they nerfed lycan. Valve is really smoking crack. Lycan been not in meta even in pro matches. Looking at dotabuff trends lycan winrates dropped a huge deal. Now some of you may say at high mmr lycan has high winrates. Well.. mid to low mmr should also have the benefit to enjoy this hero right?
what i hate the most is sven and pa nerf. Recently they just got buff on 1 or 2 their skill . Now they nerfing not even talent but also their stat. Sven ulti CD nerf stat nerf.
WTF man. Sven become meta because his 3rd , and he got nerfed whole thing. It's just unfair
Looks like Valve wants to encourage boosting. Meepo and brood buff. Meepo winrate is skyrocketing now. Boosters rejoice!!
Player with knowledge buy the midas for exp gain on certain heroes and basic noobs buy them for money on every hero and say thats shit now xD OH now it gives 40 gold less then 2 patches ago = shit ;S
Yes because valve wants to encourage boosting so lets buff heros like meepo and brood!
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