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General DiscussionHow to approach teamfights as sf

How to approach teamfights as sf in General Discussion
lm ao

    Hey guys

    I've been practicing a bit of sf so I can use this thing to play ranked
    But I observed that my weakest point when playing sf is the way to approach teamfights
    I've been too accustomed to the pickoff strategy (like Puck/TA playstyle) and I think it has a negative influence on my general playstyle
    I really don't know who to prioritize in teamfights. I feel like sf's mediocre attack range is the one to blame. Go deeper into the teamfight to prioritize on squishies and I just die simply because I'm also a squishy.
    When I go magic build I feel that I'm not impactful enough when it comes to damage. I go eul's and my entire damage is invested solely on a single target which means when teamfights drag longer I'm basically reduced to throwing razes at people. Razes are very lackluster damaging spells come midgame.
    Is sf just a bad hero?
    (I already know I'm a terrible player btw)

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    one-man bukakke

      just dont pick him

      lm ao

        shut up mom

        Clubs

          SF has kind of been a bad for a while. The magic build is somewhat the way to go these days if you do play him. If you're having trouble staying alive in fights, try going treads into Eul's into Blink for a few games and see how it works for you. The bonus mobility could help a bit for setting up spells correctly. Focus on getting enough farm so that you can right click semi-comfortably in a fight. Keep working on positioning with him—it's more important than most heroes since he's squishy and has to raze correctly.

          lm ao

            I feel like investing too much in mobility really hurts a lot in the damage dealing department
            As sf you are expected to be no 1 in damage dealt

            ywn

              Razes are very lackluster damaging spells come midgame.

              this isnt true at all razes are so buffed now. damage stacking, spell amp and talents

              SirIronSights

                Sf ain't that good for some teamfights.
                I would go blink dagger stray, and focus backline.
                After that you can go hit their cores.
                Sf doesn't really work for me I fi don't kill supports first, I always get locked down.

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                arin

                  are you implying that you need mobility items to win 1k games?

                  inx

                    use ur spells and rightclicks.

                    Feachairu

                      buy meka if win lane and get greaves at min 14-16

                      he's literally weaker version of viper tho,just play viper

                      ROAD TO HERALD 0

                        prioritize on squishies

                        I too would like to prioritize squishies. Blue star please halp!

                        Kathir-

                          you may want to press bkb

                          玉玉小子

                            The magic build on him is good imo, even better than the physical one. I dont get it why you said sf isnt impactful enough if you go with magic build. Requiem is one of the best area ultimate in the game if you can maximize it properly.

                            Also maybe you want to press bkb like the guy above me said.

                            玉玉小子

                              The issue about the hero is sf really dependants on the teamwork (thing that always being problem in your bracket: lack of teamwork). One good set up by your team or else you lose the clash. He's kind of hero who couldn't single carry the game.

                              miiigz

                                My last game was a comeback game with a SF who "carried" the game. My participation was starategical feeding in this game, tanking smokes and ganks. He was one of the proactive players (monkey was afk farming and necro split pushing). SF mostly used Euls for initiation on isolated targets, or stayed in the backlines casting shadow raze and right clicking when he had no items. Most importantly, he did not pick any worthless fights where he would die easily, and farmed a lot in the jungle. When we won team fights, he was making the calls to do objectives (towers and roshan).

                                Cptn.Canuck

                                  Depends on the stage of the game, and the amount of farm you have. Earlier on, your razes out-damage your right clicks quite a bit.

                                  Always open the fight with an ultimate. The damage reduction and slow are huge, and underrated ways to impact a teamfight. You don't necessarily need to sit directly on someone and get a full-soul explosion. While that's nice, the chances of it happening without interruption are slim unless you have a euls or BKB. Just get near where everyone is, channel and let it go.

                                  From there, look for razes. You don't want to look for squishies because... well... you are squishy. You'll get blown up moving in. Recognize that and stay to the outside of fights, landing as many combo-razes as you can, preferably on the other team's damage dealers. It's all just micro-positioning. Staying out of the enemies danger radius, and only moving in when spells are down. That's not exactly something you can teach over a forum, but it's the reason SFs tend to build a ton of movement speed. It lets you out-step your opponents and be in just the right spot to land the right raze.

                                  Lruce Bee

                                    I might be wrong. I am bad at sf and team fighting with sf too. I have no idea how this hero gets anything done. But if I were to Guess.. you start off with your ult and kind of want to hover around the edge of fights and around friends. You never charge Into backlines. You kind of either need wombs combo to do huge aoe quick with ult and raises, or you need fights to drag out so you can isolate someone with a +1 disabler so you can right click down. Always be ready to ditch a fight cuz u die so easily.

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