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MuLLi

    How much is too much?

    Silver Ice

      anything over 30 is hoesntly tryharding and completely unnecessary

      Yowai Mo

        as long as you give some milk everything should be fine

        MuLLi

          I would love to give some but there is so many after it and u are 200th in lane so u need to wait a moment for it

          miiigz

            Less than 60 is bad.
            300+ is Starcraft level.

            '96 Neve Campbell

              Why would there be such thing as too much are you stupid?

              very litty

                this is the perfect amount of apm

                very litty

                  miiigz

                    300 APM doing random things is too much and will get you injuries. You don't need 300 APM as treant in 2k MMR. Use your APM more wisely and efficiently.

                    Vaikiss`742.

                      most of "apm" comes from pointless spamming prettysure if someone checked pro players apm they would be in the range of 100 to 200 maybe even lower than 100 unless meepo chen /etc

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                      MuLLi

                        Yeah I have a lot of inefficiency in actions

                        MuLLi

                          MuLLi

                            A lot comes by scouting as tree. OFC I could play more like afk tree and have only 100 APM as Tree players usually have

                            kowareta

                              Rtz camera movement is so fucking good
                              I dont know if its count as apm or not

                              MuLLi

                                U mean camera following the hero?

                                MuLLi

                                  I do not use it I just click too much.

                                  I have noticed how supports usually click too much compared to core players

                                  MuLLi

                                    Like I had 315 APM as WK last game I did play. I might have 100-200 too much. 115 would be enough to just last hit deny

                                    MuLLi

                                      So I'm in wrong game :D I need to go starcraft

                                      MuLLi

                                        If someone knows why I have so high APM it would be nice to hear bec in my opinion I do not have 300+

                                        Oldman

                                          200+ on lane is ez to get if you farm with stop animation button and pudge is camping for you in the trees, so you have to be in constant movement.

                                          MuLLi

                                            So my 300 APM might be legit not any bug

                                            I just wonder if I have some malware :D

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                                            Jack__Attack

                                              80-90 on average heroes.
                                              My signature heroes like visage, brood, and lycan puts me at 120-150

                                              Sygma zxc ghoul 2y.o dead...

                                                APM takes into account every single action you make in the game. Selecting, clicking, pressing a key (as long as something is bind to it obviously). The only thing it does use is the minimap, if you click on your minimap or use a camera hotkey, it won't count.

                                                However it's kinda strange you have 300+ on treant. Maybe with some cancel mechanics as Lex said.

                                                HartzFear

                                                  There is noway the dota + Apm is only close tp be accurate. It says like 350 in average for me while its less then 150 on a serious Apm tracker. stop thinking youre good cuz dota + lies to you lmao.

                                                  MuLLi

                                                    Can u post me link for serious Apm tracker pls. I really like to know more about this

                                                    (Bot) Beerus

                                                      does auto right click count for actions per minute?

                                                      MuLLi

                                                        It must or I have malware in PC

                                                        MuLLi

                                                          I have some team members with 500 Apm as Invoker

                                                          So he have same malware :D

                                                          '96 Neve Campbell

                                                            What are you fucking going on about? What does malware have to do with APM? Why do you care about APM its one of the most irrelevant stats in the whole game...

                                                            miiigz

                                                              APM doesn't mean that you are good. In your case, it only means you are clicking without objectivity. Check yt video of a 300 APM starcraft player and compare how useless are your clicks.

                                                              me, government hooker

                                                                ler_gg 300 apm and uses mouse to buy tp what a legend!!

                                                                one syllable anglo-saxon

                                                                  hey i used mouse to buy tp and i was an extemely skilled player

                                                                  one syllable anglo-saxon

                                                                    or did i? i honestly don't even remember anymore

                                                                    MuLLi

                                                                      @miiigz yeah that is true.

                                                                      As this topic was "how much is too much"

                                                                      MuLLi

                                                                        Last games I have got little better and dropped 50 apm https://i.gyazo.com/d06daccce43c2d8dde556688352da010.png

                                                                        Just 242 as SB

                                                                        If I try hard I might get under 200 soon

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                                                                        Seoulmate

                                                                          i have 350+ apm every game because i use wasd for camera and also have rapid right clicks enabled

                                                                          MuLLi

                                                                            So rapid right clicks make most of it and WASD buff it even more