Ur suppose to give it in the pick stage if you are not and wasting people time you deserve to lose
I order supports to give me tangos if they are too fucking retarded to just share them in pick screen. Also when they buy out wards and walk around with a thumb up their asshole before sharing them, so i cant't block my wave cause I have to follow them for a minute before they realize.
HOLY CRAP EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD IS TOXIC.
Except kowareta he seems equally as shocked as me.
well im not respecting my time, sure legend V gods are getting triggered about that efficiency. thats the difference between gods and noobs
Yup. When i play support i always give tangos and wards or most of the time and i tryhard as much as possible. When i dont play supp a.k.a. mid or else they either dont give me tangos or i need to pick them. So f u person who dont give your mid player tangos. If you come and ruin down my game i will definitely report you. I also played today with boosted immortal smurf on 4.4k mmr...
they're asking because it should be expected every game that you give your mid regen, and if you don't then you're just making the game more difficult to win. don't take it as a personal attack.
@Androgynous
thx captain obvious ... I said he orders it BEFORE I give the tangos.
There are arrogant mids who don't appreciate a support and never say plz or thank you , they deserve to lose.
And did you really explain to me why a mid needs regen??lmfao
if u first pick sup then u can give the mid player immeediatly tangos unless you were AFK or have forgotten. Also how many smokes are u buying? 0?
There are arrogant mids who don't appreciate a support and never say plz or thank you , they deserve to lose.
why do you think by playing support you are doing any favor to others? you say thanks when your midlane doing his job and carries you?
i do realize it when somebody playing classic rank ,wanna play core but supporting others, but being this cucky when yourself chose to play 5 is just stupid.
nobody forced you queue 5 and if you dont like this role dont play it. nobody supposed to say thanks to you as you not saying that to others smiley face
thx captain obvious ... I said he orders it BEFORE I give the tangos.
There are arrogant mids who don't appreciate a support and never say plz or thank you , they deserve to lose.
And did you really explain to me why a mid needs regen??lmfao
is this reddit
well somebody has to be the hero and play pos 5 .
most of the players are mid/carry and they don't appreciate the supports enough.
Its the hardest role where you sacrifice yourself the whole game for a team of ungrateful shitbags.
what a hero indeed =))
as i said nobody asked you to queue 5 and as a 5 player im totally disagree with what you saying
You can't queue for 5 and then complain about having to give wards/tangos to mid. They should never have to ask you in the first place. There is a reason you can queue for any role you want.
give it on loadout..if you dont want to give tango or wards stop playing support..you most likely dont win games coz ure feeding every single game you played..holy shit..
honestly it is really game losing to play support when you have no idea how to. You dont even see all the mistakes you are doing. Most are not as noticeable as core mistakes but they effect the game really hard if not more. just leave it to actual support players.
For example the first 5 mins it literally a race against the clock. You want to trade all ur mana and hp to clear the enemy offlaner's reg. Once it is 1 min 30 secs you want to move back to the small camp and get rdy to stack it. Once you stack it you have to pull the wave at 2 mins 15 secs. You want to let the creeps kill ur entire wave which would result in a small window where you and ur core are both lvl 3 while the enemy offlane is lvl 2. This is the best time to kill the offlaner. Literally a mistep in any of these steps you and lose ur lane for ur safe laner which results in him abandoning the lane cuz of your incompetence. It is not an easy role dont q it if you dont know how to play it.
@Kowareta
I agree nobody forces you to play that position but its the most disrespected one nobody can deny that.
If you win the carry gets the praise ,if you lose support gets the blame .
Its a lose lose scenario
@OP : What about the pos4 that ends up doing your job and that you punish indirectly with this kind of behavior ?
well somebody has to be the hero and play pos 5 .
pos4 are the true heroes since pos5 players with this mindset don't fulfill their duties.
most of the players are mid/carry and they don't appreciate the supports enough.
F**k their appreciation, dota is not a place where you'll find friendship and love. You'll find only toxicity and disdain in this game.
Its the hardest role where you sacrifice yourself the whole game for a team of ungrateful shitbags.
Your job is to contribute with the pos4 to enable your cores, not to sacrifize yourself the whole game.
Specially in legend 5 in solo queue.
Why would you sacrifize yourself for ungrateful shitbags anyway ? They don't deserve it.
nobody can deny that.
i already did that buddy.
for me there is no difference which role i play. its always frustrating playing with retards. people full of shit sadly. i got called useless creep pos 5 as much as ez mid. no difference :)
but its frustrating for you to play 5 because its not meant to be for ppl like you. you have ego problems
@Sygma.Pride of Arrogance
so I shouldn't sacrifice and let the carry die instead?
I play in very low behavior so when the carry dies once he will afk jungle instantly.
I dont usually play support unless someone I actually respect is in the game. But that doesnt mean I am not a good support player, in fact it so good it often get mistaken as core on dotabuff. Plus you learn the most about playing support by playing core. Since basically everything you wish your support did for you just note it down and when you play support do those things and you shock your cores how you are reading their mind
so I shouldn't sacrifice and let the carry die instead?
I play in very low behavior so when the carry dies once he will afk jungle instantly.
So you should assess the situation and see if your sacrifice is worth it in a general manner.
There is no builtin excel table in dota but just weight the pros and cons.
And if he afk jungles, whatever. It means more exp and gold for you.
if they dont say please they are not getting anything. the mute function exist for a reason bro
if u cant give it by habit then i dont know why u expect them to say please
when you queue into a game the only thing people want to do is win. no one cares about your martyr complex. play whatever role is needed because you want to win not because you want validation. i agree with what others have said. no one cares whether you're appreciated or not, because it doesn't matter.
when the game ends you probably won't get matched with these people again, so why should you care whether or not they appreciated you. what should matter is whether you tried to win the game or not.
if someone says "gj" after you counter tp or whatever, good for them. but that doesn't mean you should expect everyone to.
i explained why you give tangos to mid because for whatever reason you think you have justification not to. if someone is being a dick, just mute them and play to win regardless of the fact. playing to win means giving them tangos at the start of the game. if you aren't then you are deliberately trying to lose the game. sure it's not on the same level as tossing teammates into towers but it's still playing to lose.
if someone has to ask you to give them tangos before you've given them, it's because you're taking too long. it shouldn't have to be something you need to think about.
if you can't give them tangos because you haven't picked your hero yet, that's probably already a sign that the draft is poor since the mid player has picked before the pos 5. in pub games at least, supports are picked at the start of the draft unless it's some OP hero that needs to be first picked.
What..., I don't care mid order to give tango and ward.
As long in the end they are doing good or okay at least-
Most triggering is when someone ask for mid then giving 0 impact or even being a burden.
Literally triggering inside.
Its not only me ,anyone who plays support is a hero and needs to get acknowledged . This forum is about all supports ,not me..
You arent giving them the tangos for them, it's for yourself. Why should they say please, they need an item to increase their chance of winning their 1v1 which benefits you. If i suicide for my carry, again it's for me. I tped mid to save from that asshole batrider? Me me me.
Hell supports get the most appreciation out of every role, it's like second nature to get 4 commends when you win. Seems like you want to be the captain but are playing to lose.
Do you say thank you when the carry gets kills, proves he is aware of the map situation, stays primarily in the vision you (maybe, though I'm doubtful judging by your behavior) provide and hits his timings correctly?
If the answer to this is no, then you're worse than they are. Not only do you demand appreciation for a given task, you also have double standards.
Jesus christ, just play offline already. BOTs will use commandlines every now and then, maybe you get lucky.
OP said he is in low Behavior Score, still you guys argue with him lols, bunch of disables
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Does anybody else get angry when mid ORDERS you to give him tangos and ward before you do .
In some cases i just run down mid and ruin.
Anybody else with me on this?