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General DiscussionRosh or Rax?

Rosh or Rax? in General Discussion
Tyski

    I know this is a very situational question, but what is your priority generally?

    For me generally it's something like this

    RS > T2
    RS #2 + > Rax

    What do you guys value more?

    Quite common to hear the push tower then we go take rosh, which i will always disagree with and say fuck the tower just go rosh. Especially when enemy is dead for say 30s.

    MuLLi

      I would take map control and it could be done by rosh or tower/rax

      Oldman

        Depends. If they have Sniper or Tinker or just turtle its better to take raxx.

        You have an enter to their base after that. Use smoke or ninja gear to snipe that annoying hero in the backlines and gg.

        In other cases it depends. If your core bought back to win the fight and they may have bbs, better rosh.

        There are much more situations to consider.

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        hi im dog

          depends if you're in the position to take rax or rosh. Are lanes going to be at the t3, will you be able to take tower and rax? Or will the core buyback and defend? A lot of times it's better to take tower, force buy backs, then rosh (providing you still have BB), then force the enemy person who bought back to risk themselves, and if you kill them, it's GG.

          hi im dog

            if you dont have BB on cores, go rosh, otherwise if they BB and wipe you, they will get rosh and it will be GG

            Mad Scientist

              Based on the priority, assuming you just won a teamfight and their cores all have bb

              2nd ++ rosh < 1st rax
              2nd ++ rosh = last rax

              1st rosh is generally < than any rax cause you can just fall back if they buyback and win later if they push to rosh

              ★

                Trying to get rax and died in enemy fountain cause i get baited easily > rosh

                that's my priority

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                  depends
                  i would rather let you figure it out yourself

                  Jack__Attack

                    If i have a choice it's much preferred to take barracks over roshan. Of course every situation is different I acknowledge.

                    Jack__Attack

                      Double post

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                      Bambooni

                        30s spawn time 3 dead. Team mates are going to push t2 time remaining 10s. Go roshan (I say when we kill the enemies, but my team mates ignore me all the time). Team proceeding with t2 push and dying (since enemies respawn and they overextend with the push). Enemy team taking free roshan. Friendly team losing roshan and fight -> game is lost + tilted i. So when to rosh?

                        Mid creeps are in the middle of map. Enemy respawn after 30s and 3 are dead.
                        Push t2. My team pushing t2's instead roshan and then going high ground after t2. Enemy team using fortify 10s left for enemies to spawn. I tell them to back. My team dies and ping me toxicity why i dont push or split push when nobody wants to roshan.
                        Enemy kill 3 of us and takes roshan.
                        We or I proceed with rage because the team didn't focus on a fucking roshan.
                        Results: Low priority and a 2 days ban for not playing.

                        I would kick peoples arse all the time if they t2 t3->die feed enemy (enemy takes roshan and wins the game), all the time.

                        Scenario 1: Take roshan and aegis (gifs free life if youve forgotten). We can take map control more freely. We can use smoke to smoke gang them and kill 1-2 heroes and then push. Nobody uses smoke, only rage and flame. The enemy team will play more defensively since we've aegis.

                        Scenario 2 without roshan kills: Let your main strong hero push t3 (siege slow) and your job is to protect him. If your team mate is enough strong he won't die or if he die the enemy team will use a lot of magic spells and their spells will be on cd so you can push more freely.

                        Most case scenario: 3 people are pushing all die. Carry dive's t4s dies and rage. Someone is pushing (team mate) lanes so that enemy can't push our t3 (i pinged and told ill defend bot lane from creeps so we can push later) team proceed pushing resulting to fighting 3v5 between t1-2. They die and proceed with rage towards the man who didn't came. And then i'm mistaken when nobody knows how to play the fucking game.

                        歼灭

                          Depends on many factors .This cant be answered

                          9o_o6

                            raxes honestly doesnt matter what you actually need to do is win 5v5 fights whether it is with pick offs or using an aegis to bait all the spells so they have nothing to fight with when you reborn. Most line ups have no problem fighting off mega creeps.

                            Sygma zxc ghoul 2y.o dead...

                              Depends on lane pushed or not, vision, buyback status, turtle capacity in front or not, if you win the fight without aegis or not, if you can end the game ggwp with the aegis.

                              Tyski

                                Well i guess since that first question has so many scenarios , ill change to roshan or t2? Is there ever a situation you should go for t2 first instead of roshan after wiping enemy team and its a pretty much gauranteed rosh unless they buyback

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                                swap commends

                                  I think the rosh suggestion has been better lately, not saying its the right! Still situationally! Since they removed the shrines and those cant be removed in order to establish the map control!