Cuz PA level 20 talent stacks the armor debuff with illusions, so if u have 2 manta illusions + PA and u have a Deso u get 15 armor reduction instead of 9. Riki buys it to dispel shit he can dispel dust too.
Why wouldn't you buy it on Riki? Manta gives agi that stacks with his passives, it gives him movespeed which is useful, it gives him illusions so that he can split push and a dispel so that he can purge dust and other revealing effects like Slardar's corrosive haze. Manta should practically be core on this hero.
stats= as. ok but LS wont need agility that much cause he is not agl hero! no additional dmg counts for him..
I think it is for orchid? but why LS should prefer Manta to Bkb..? (bkb is cheaper also)
you buy manta on these heroes when you dont want to buy bkb but need a defensive item, its mostly for the dispel and stats it gives. dispel is crucial on riki for things like silences and dust.
because manta gives better stats than bkb. bkbs stats suck, so does it's cost efficiency, meaning the only reason you buy it is for the spell immunity. ms is useful on lifestealer to stay on top of enemy heroes, and all he needs is an item that allows him to cast rage, rather than utilising the spell immunity from bkb. manta's lower cooldown makes it much better for that purpose, and has other uses like using the illusions to scout or push out lanes.
one of the reasons you also rarely see bkb on juggernaut, and manta style instead. you already have spell immunity, you just need an item that lets you cast it if you are silenced.
and just because a stat that an item gives is not the primary stat of a hero doesn't make it useless. strength heroes typically lack armour and attack speed, which is why you sometimes see wraith bands instead of bracers on strength cores. people don't have a problem with str cores picking up AC which gives attack speed and armour, yet when you get attack speed and armour from agility, apparently that makes the item bad.
also kabir idk if you're trolling but i tested pa and the illusions don't apply the armour corrosion.
<Quote> LS wont need agility that much cause he is not agl hero! </Quote>
This applies to why some agility heroes use str on power treads (i guess u saw it in ur games right). So why str heroes cant use agility / int stats items?
Normal High lvl games people will build wraith band on str heroes. Sometimes ur hero just don't need regen from bracer, maybe ur hero is lacking of armour and attack speed.
Battle-fury and manta on any agi melee core, you got yourself a discount AntiMage.
I tried BF-Manta on PA before in a matchup vs Tinker, gets you damage while also getting some defensive ability via dispel. As long as the enemies’ hard disables(stun/hex) and magic dmg output aren’t too problematic, it lets you walk away from their soft disables(silence/root). Aghs is probably better nowadays tho.
Same deal with Riki
^ my mid puck did manta first item on this match https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/5770645721
its very good against drow silence :)
aghs on pa is better than manta except against silences, but in that case u usually want bkb on pa anyway since u cant usually get away with only dispelling/dodging a few spells.
My favourite thing to do is buy manta and aghs and people can't click on me and they lose
theres probably some situation where u could justify manta on ursa but u usually just go sny or bkb i feel like
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why they buy Manta on riki-Pa? what's the advantage? I mean they both have blink and they have to use spells to deal damage
illusions dont have much damage on these 2 heroes
what about Manta on LS?