General DiscussionHow to play chen pos 5?

the laning is the same lol

type n youtube ''how to play chen''

@Kowareta my bad i should have just asked how to lane chen pos 5 in general. no need to be toxic lol degenerate

I love the way you calling names the only person that can help you with your issue on this forum, while there was nothing toxic in his sentence. xd Genius.

Wanna be a good pos 5?
Try to learn to keep a level head. Imagine getting triggered by "the laning is the same lol".
Well, I guess life's hard as a salty archon animal. You probably snap back at everyone who gave you good advice. OMEGALUL XD

@AD.Goku I literally do not care enough to send a long reply get a life.

Anyways I was just asking for any help with laning chen because its not super clear what the best strategy is. Do I grab persuasion level one and steal their ranged creep? Is it worth the gold loss? Some advice on how to decide what to build after mek?
But no these bluestars have egos for no reason. Sorry I don't the time to play more and wanted some help lmao.

I never ever flame my team mates I struggle with chen because I lack skill and knowledge myself. I am not a delusional idiot and know I need to improve myself and not focus on negative teammates who are my mmr despite having 9000 matches played. I only want to improve and from my perspective there is no reason to gatekeep non degenerates like me.

kowa ive heard chen is the worst hero in dota from some immortal friends, what u think

not pull, harass or deny. But pushing with your natural creeps.

Chen used to be fun to play when u could get 2 big eagles early and tornado the shit out of the enemy carry and easily kill his/her support with tornados + old nuke ability + poision lemon (orb of venom).

Now Chen is much harder to play, feels like it is designed as an early jungler that can push mid game with an army and if you have very good communication with your team.

I do think it can be played together with a safe lane alch however... the attack speed and the healing should be insane with alch...

Also: Chen should, in theory, be the best stacking hero in dota I believe (stacking up to 4 or 5 camps at the same time with helm of dominator).

Imagine getting so triggered over a random comment.

I literally do not care enough to send a long reply get a life.

Spend 2 comments defending yourself against my accusations. OMEGALUL XD

It's not that bluestars have ego, it's just your inferiority complex is showing up. The guy have you the most basic advice, to which you lashed out like a baby.
Any role has a basic playstyle, once you get good at that, then you try to adjust playstyle based on the hero.

It's equivalent to core spamming Archon animal saying "My support cannot secure the ranged creep" while missing 2 CS every wave.
Those plays of slight advantage only matter when you have secured all the other bases.

Asking what skill build, playstyle to go, while not even knowing how/when to pull. KEKW

Check your game history, a support that barely makes glimmer, force and then wants to talk about skill builds OMEGALUL XD

if i use 10% of my potential toxicity, u will grab a knife and end your meaningless existence , trust me , there were ppl who thought about that

instead of trying to find the answer of how to play a dogshit hero on a dogshit game, go ask yourself what even u did with your miserable existence taking all the animals life?
producing shit from your anus like the way your clueless mother did from her pu33y 30 years ago??
u can still find the wonder in her face , can't you?

@ThomasTheDankEngine Getting Holy Persuasion at level 1 is usually the play after the Divine Favour active was removed. Regarding taking the enemy ranged creep on the first wave, its usually worth it over the course of the laning stage despite taking a chunk of gold, exp and pushing the wave. This is because it makes for very ez denies and harass for as long as you keep the creep alive, however I'd advise communicating this with your lane partner first, else you might tilt them. Don't forgot to stack and pull as per usual, and look out for certain creeps that can determine how you can play the lane. For example, with a Harpy, you can essentially zone out squishier heroes, or with a Ghost, deny entire waves.

With what to build after Mek, I'm finding moderate success with going Holy Locket, Vlads, then Greaves, fitting in any traditional support items if required, such as glimmer, force and ghost scepter.

Dont take my advice as gospel though of course, im only a 4k scrub, but do check out pro players replays on the hero, either in pubs or competitive games, look out for notail and puppey especially.

@Flukey ty very much. Do you skip boots and if so what heros would you buy boots against? Asking because it usually seems terrible to buy boots before mek.

@Ad.goku no cares about u get a life
@kowareta how are you gonna waste so much time in dota then waste even more time replying to a scrub like me. You are sad

@Ad.goku no cares about u get a life

You seem to care enough to reply to me twice

I know it's a hard concept for you 10IQ kids to grasp, but writing "no one cares" followed by a "get a life", doesn't really work.

"You wrote something and I'm gonna write back to you telling you how I don't care about what you wrote"

Well, expecting salty Archon animals to even have a functioning brain is a miscalculation on my part. OMEGALUL XD

oh mr sherlock
did u just used google translator to find out im a sad person??? thats what i call being talented!

now grab your spoon before start eating poop good boy. thats how a gentleman behave.

@ad.goku lmao take the time to send another paragraph retard

no need to be toxic lol

degenerate

retard

Kowareta you’ve already shown your attitude and we all know you. No need to show off more.

Btw yestarday I played with a strange guy name „Abdullach al Saudi” or whatever it was with an inventory worth close to a million dollars. Any rumors of Saudi prince playing dota?

https://steamcommunity.com/id/Abdullah_Al_Saud/

@ThomasTheDankEngine I try to avoid going boots before mek at all costs. My initial build up (ignoring consumables) is Headress, Basi, mek, wand, arcane boots. And then I go onto to the build up as seen above. I honestly think that there is not any situation that requires boots before mek, but I might be wrong.

Imagine playing Chen lmaooooo

thats very strange, a degenerate scum bag using term "we" so often while his own children dont wanna get summed with him :))

1/10

@ad.goku lmao take the time to send another paragraph retard

you don't care btw.

so easy to stay rent free in the heads of low skilled salty animals

He probably doesn't care, u really sound like a loser.

He probably doesn't care, u really sound like a loser.

Well you both seem to care then.
You low iq kids, still don't understand how "I don't care" works.
Once my week off is over, I'll give you a sample of that.

Keep em coming, this is so much fun.

Depends on your definition of word care, I care enough to tell you how much of a loser u are as an unbiased stranger, this is more for your own good to stop being such a weirdo.

Depends on your definition of word care

Oh yes, a personal dictionary where we modify the definitions of words based on our personal use.

I care enough

And now I own a small patch of land inside of your head without paying a dime.

Honestly after SLQ stopped posting, I was worried that there won't be more ppl to mess with. Thank you for showing up.

1360+ games with Chen here - Level 26 right now.

I usually rush Headdress before Boots; the aura itself gives almost a perma-tango to lane.
Then I go for mana boots then Mekansm. If you can get a speed aura creep early in the game and you can micro well, you can hold off the boots and work other stuffs instead.

If enemy ine-up does not have any AoE, I like to build Holy Persuasion/Penitence build. That can really mess them up in laning and can push well.

Mid-game: Glimmer cape and Greaves will be invaluable. Get Aeon Disk if they have nukes.

Late-game: There are 2 builds I like to go for.
1.) Refresher + Holy Locket + Shard (if you want 1.7k heal per Hand of God)
2.) Aghs + Shard (If you are planning to push hard).
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Finally, depending on the games, you can go for a battle build with Medallion and Necronomicon. Use creeps as an advantage + Penitence.
I don't recommend this against Late Game heroes and AoE heavy heroes.
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Finally, I would highly recommend to get better at microing. I never use Centaur because I can just creep body-block every hero. Let the autoattack do the work.
The smaller centaur's +5% mag res. I would say is better at times than the big centaur itself.

GL.

Thank you all very much for the input. Yeah the patch kinda killed chen

@ad.goku lmao get a life we all live rent free in your mom

Spoiler Alert: @ad.goku's mom is a kangaroo. #MarsupialLyfe

2 Salty Archon animals, necro a post to insult me.

Man feels good to stay rent free in the heads of so many ppl.

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"Wooosh" means you didn't get the joke, as in the sound made when the joke "woooshes" over your head. I bet you're too stupid to get it, IDIOT!! 😤😤😂

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I have to say that I find Kotl pos 4 more usefull that Chen, but maybe Im missing something. If enemy support blocks small camp with his body (what they usually do), then you are kinda walking regen aura till lvl 3 or even 5 sometimes.

@lex thats what ppd said on his stream. Said Chen was a retired hero.

Here's some advance tips if you get good at microing and its potential.

1.) I used to get flamed for converting regular enemy melee creeps. But team don't understand that I do not want to take our camp farms for our carries. With these melee creeps at Holy persuasion Level 4, you can block enemy camps rather than use wards. I usually did this against enemy tri-camps when I queued with teams at High Anc./Low Divine games.

2.) You can also use melee creeps as moving wards by using "Patrol" command. Helps significantly against Zeus games but in all games in general.

3.) Use regular melee creeps to deny enemy runes. I even had 1 game in which I denied enemy aegis using a melee creep (lol).

4.) Holy persuasion creep tele to Chen is fun at times with Force Staff. If you time creep teleport to your character, you can forcestaff right next to enemy and chain stun using the teleported creeps.

5.) Don't need centaur. Just learn how to body block with regular creeps.

With that said, the +700 Creep HP is justifiable for certain games. Especially if you are deciding to go for aghs.

ou can also use melee creeps as moving wards by using "Patrol" command.

Holy fuck, I never thought of using patrol like that. Gotta try that someday.

only a tard bind a key for patrol

Yup like me.

I don't think you need to bind patrol separately. Isn't 'P' like the default for patrol?

u can press P on your keyboard with left hand? damn u are a big boy!!! i cant even press the fucking ctrl without fucking up everything else
its not pre binded anyway, atleast not for me

P is default for patrol.

i just move my hand. I remember using patrol function in dota 1 days to avoid afk kick.
anyways full hand movement for setting creep patrols doesn't affect much.