General DiscussionA good support to actualy carry

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Again, the worst victory ever.
At 20 min i get told to "JUST FARM" when i tell to destroy towers and pickoff heroes, so i farm for 20 min waiting the game to be over.
Even if Enigma DCs and never comeback, is not a good enough reason to push and win but to farm until 40-50 min, why people do this?
Is it the rank am i at? i seems a huge waste of time for no reason and also how do you expect me to do anything? Cant even fucking make stacks with Tinker, Faceless and WK farming the jungle THE WHOLE FUCKING TIME

oh u pick cm 4 and u expect winning?

Not realyl sure what the good pos 4's are.

Stable picks would be any ranged stun to combo with the Pos 3.

Mirana, Phx, after that , I am not sure.

I did see a dirty combo of Lesh 4 with shard and Underfat with his pit. Root, Stun, Root Stun it was super dirty.

Jakiro is a good hero to support, zone out and push with. But if you want to actually have an impact regardless of your team you have to change role and imo pos 3 is the most suited for this. At least for the first part of the game, then if the game gets dragged for very long you'll need your carries more often than not. Snowballing pos 2 is also suited for what you're looking for.

In your bracket dont think about pos1 - 5 or carry or supp. You need to farm, kill, push, escape and do everything fast and efficient. Even for intel cores, they should be spamming their spells at everything most of the time. I use clarities 24/7, and it is quite common to spend 1000 gold on clarities in a single game.

last patch id play dp 5 but idk this aptch, just try things out.

luna or gyro but dont be a total retard about fighting people for farm

Silencer can turn into carry mate, expecially if ur team win alot of fight. He steals so much int if he reach lvl 15 (+2 int steal talent) and his ulti is broken

cm is a good 4/5 even at crusader - archon,
place your wards where you want your team to go
and always tell them not to go where there is no vision
buy the smokes, ping then use
if they wont group for smokes use them to ward /deward
if they want farming game, try to make sure you control 60% of the map (w. vision) so in end game your cores are fatter
and just take the farm your team wont take (usually the offlane jungle)
u should be able to consistently get shard + blink + bkb at around 40ish mins in a farming game which gives you a lot of late game impact

grim stroke seem to be very strong right now you can buy like eblade hex etc. later in the game and make a lot of impact

I think the heroes you are looking for pos 5 are: grimstroke, DP, OD, shadow shaman, and silencer (not sure if supp DP is still meta but I think it's still strong in normal bracket)

Anything that has a wave clear ability is good. Grim, Jakiro, Kotl, Winter Wyvern is good examples of that. Pos 4 ganker can also make a lot if impact in lower bracket because the mid usually don't watch the minimap, so something like tiny, clock, lion, shaman, or earth spirit is some heroes you might wanna try.

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I'm legend and this is too advanced.

grimstroke is stomping anything lately

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Right now it is very important to check if PL is banned or picked. With the removal of zoo meta, aoe is important against illusions. Dazzle and Lion seems to be very good counters to PL. BH is very good with shard now. I think the next game changing "support" would be Huskar. I have yet to experiment Huskar as pos 4, but given his shard and aghs, as well as buffs to aura items, I believe this is the next cancer.

pos 4 lina now is the meta try it. good supp nice dmg nice stun u can go for dmg or supp build depense on the game
more recommended pos 4- hoodwink/np/aa/pudge(only if u good good roamer!!)/spirit breaker.
good luck