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Dota 2 Matchmaking Scam in General Discussion
DotaTimeWaste🤮

    As player counts hit 5-years-low (https://steamdb.info/app/570/charts/), GG team posted this matchmaking meme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y79u72uhI4c

    We all know every other game has Seasonal MMR Reset, except Dota 2 which has obviously rigged 50% (if you have Dota+) win rate that you can't break however good you are. The "dark toxic system" manipulates your games in all ranks, forcing you to lose just when you have 3 games win streak by giving you ridiculous bots.
    Somehow, Valve decided one win + one loss = mmr +1. Therefore, if you buy an account you will lose very very very slowly, perhaps even gain some mmr in the long run because skill has absolutely nothing to do with MMR. In other word, Dota 2 is boosters and account buyers' warm bed. Besides, ranking up in solo queue is impossible, we can only seek help from boosters who are doing just great in Dota 2.

    Some facts and evidence:
    bots playing fake games in Immortal,

    Is this a normal Immortal match?
    https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1ilqaw0/is_this_a_normal_immortal_match/
    byu/Zerudinha inDotA2

    boosters have made it to Immortal 4 rank.

    Rank 04 Wintrading Along Map Hacker
    https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1ikkp8k/rank_04_wintrading_along_map_hacker/
    byu/Meepomon inDotA2
    https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/8181832861

    For more, just look at your games and see how ridiculous they are

    More Immortal account than the lower ranks combined, boosters are using bots in SEA and EU they have reached 20,000 MMR

    More bots than real players now, they login/ log out at the same minute:


    People played 40,000 hours still Herald 2

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    Midnight punisher 😈

      Tnx for sharing this. I have been trying so hard to rank up to at least crusader but after long streak wins long losing streaks starts. Idk how it works but you have good explanations. They should really think something for their game otherwise only parties can play dota

      Ad.Goku™(tv/adgoku24)

        Salt from low skilled ppl, blaming everything but their own skill, never gets old. Same forum different low skilled individuals.

        I spammed only pos 5 for an entire year and I went from Crusader 4 to Ancient 5.

        Matchmaking system works as expected. Low skilled individuals stay at low mmr. You can blame the system all you want.

        DotaTimeWaste🤮

          Glad I could help.
          Valve ban us on Reddit and on forum just because we talk about their scam. And boosters speak ridiculous sht to make you unhappy even without any evidence. They dont even read my posts, just bark like dogs. If you read it you will see anyone can rank up because one win + one loss = mmr +1 but it has absolutely nothing to do with your skill. The system is as messy as garbage trash. If you are pro player or good player in Immortal you will agree that their games are pure garbage, that is why pro players ask for a change and what they get is "Recruite Mode" which is even more garbage than before.
          I can solo in mid lane against any booster and crush them like cockroaches, but I can never win because my team die faster than flies. That is the sad truth about Dota 2

          phoxx

            you being crusader and wintraders being rank 4 are not related

            DotaTimeWaste🤮

              so I looked at both yeet and Goku's profile, your game histories are truly typical of bought account because your K/D/A alone can justify you both are low skill account buyers
              I don't even have to look further, both of you are ruining every game and making your team suffer, maybe that is why you bark like dogs, booster

              DotaTimeWaste🤮

                the ratio of boosters vs real players is 4:1 if you look at Steam Data Base
                real players come and go but boosters keep boosting

                Ad.Goku™(tv/adgoku24)

                  and if that's your analysis skill, that totally explains why you can't go beyond 2k. Stay mad low skill dogs.

                  DotaTimeWaste🤮

                    Ad.Goku™(tv/adgoku24) - Indian player on Singapore server ruining every game who cough like a sick old man
                    since you bark so hard (not sure why you so mad) I watched your Twitch channel and my God this guy!!!
                    So, you can only play AA, Spec, and Techie. Even on your best hero AA you don't know how to block enemy camp, you keep your sentry in your pack only to be dewarded immediately after placing it. You ward near cliff which only idiots do that. You farm at safe lane like pos 1 even when you play pos 5. Your first item is Eul which shows you have no idea about your role or your game. You have the least Damage and most death, feeding axe many times. Your contribution to the game is negative, your team can win faster without you.
                    Your pathetic Twich channel has 0 view and you insult me so that I will be your only viewer??? Get some medicine you Hindi cockroach you cough like Covid haunted you.

                    DotaTimeWaste🤮

                      https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3448041568
                      Player count hits 5 years low
                      https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3448045197
                      More immortal than the rest ranks combined

                      Every time I queue for next game I get EXACTLY same people or at least 2 of them from my previous game!!!! What is wrong with you Valve?

                      No Seasonal MMR Rest for 12 years, rig our games by forcing us to lose. One win + one loss = MMR +1. This is booster la la land!!! Boosters have made it to Immortal 4 and using bots for ez mmr by fighting at top lane 5 vs 5.
                      You think this is funny and somehow makes Dota 2 "fun" to play? LOOK AT YOUR PLAYER COUNT!!!!

                      Ad.Goku™(tv/adgoku24)

                        woof woof, mr angry low skilled animal. Stalk me more xD
                        I'll bother reading your wall of texts only when you manage to atleast reach 3k mmr. Till then, I have 0 interests in ramblings of a delusional angry dog.

                        Oh damn, this brings back memories. First SLQ and now you. The forums are the best place to watch losers making up creative reasons for their dogshit skills.

                        twitch.tv/sharp142 commen...

                          this guy hasnt even played dota 2 in months but hes crying about the game stay low skill bud

                          DotaTimeWaste🤮
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                            DotaTimeWaste🤮

                              this is peak hour player count, 5-years low, nobody likes it

                              more Immortal account than the lower ranks combined, boosters are using bots in SEA and EU they have reached 20,000 MMR

                              Chuck

                                Maybe the game is better of dead? 10K hrs and have played off and on but sparingly in the last 5 yrs. cannot get out of the pit. Maybe it has to do with something other than game play? This stuff is catnip for flamers trying to shoot you down but I think you have a point. Hard to win against a stacked deck. I don't want to play with tryhards learning heros. Why spend valuable time with things that don't bring you happiness. If it's rigged, and people are perptuating a rigged system, it's better of dead.

                                DotaTimeWaste🤮

                                  it has 0 to do with your skill no matter how hard you learn
                                  if you go to divine you will see, people are literally brain dead pos 1 jungle pos 2 jungle even pos 4 jungle like bot

                                  выше

                                    have you tried not playing the game if it makes u mad?

                                    Ad.Goku™(tv/adgoku24)

                                      ^ If this idiots had that kind of thinking power, they wouldn't be acting this delusional. They get 1-2 good games and they get cocky and suddenly feel like the 10 bad games are due to bad teammates. It's absolutely hilarious to watch the strawman arguments they will pull to protect their fragile ego.

                                      DotaTimeWaste🤮

                                        I have canceled my Dota + subscripting, all my cosmetics I can't refund but I have quit since February.

                                        Ad.Goku™(tv/adgoku24)

                                          So why are you still on the forums, you quit the game, just move on peacefully, why let a bullshit game torment you like this?

                                          DotaTimeWaste🤮
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                                            DotaTimeWaste🤮

                                              Also, here we have a great player who played 6 years ago said this.
                                              https://youtu.be/NLDpaQJNySk?si=-2cf5aeC0c6S4Tym

                                              DotaTimeWaste🤮

                                                "have you tried not playing the game if it makes u mad?"
                                                of course, I just regret the 4000 hours and money I spent on this toxic game
                                                Valve must be punished for this "retention based manipulation"
                                                Dota is MOBA game, but if you take the fairness away it turns into garbage waste of time
                                                this game is dead already if you look at the number of players in queue, even after 30 min you get a game it's quality is as good as garbage, only toxic scums

                                                eBai adan

                                                  git gud

                                                  Ad.Goku™(tv/adgoku24)

                                                    Spending 4000 hours and whatever money you spent was your choice. Stop whining, grow up and learn to move on.

                                                    DotaTimeWaste🤮

                                                      Immortal rank is actually the worst rank now, only noobs play in that rank and ridiculous matches, everyone knows

                                                      Psychiatrist of DotA

                                                        I agree. The science is sound. On 12k behaviour score. I win matches so easily. Go on massive winstreaks, almost every game people complain that I am a smurf.. I get, "he is not our bracket".. "report booster" etc...

                                                        and then game after game, yes they winnable, but i have to play with like maximum mental effort. if I am pos 3, my mid and carry get absolutely trashed.. I still win these games, but it makes me feel raw. Like in comparison a day of exttremly difficult work in real life.. and I'm like.. is this supposed to be fun?

                                                        People have complained about this for years, and instead its turned back on the customer, "this is your fault." "mad cause bad".. Uh..

                                                        There is no way that having a 12k behaviour score can start a game back to back to back with the players all flaming eachother and saying GG .. going 0-10 a few minutes into the game 0-20 10 minutes in the game.. and I'm supposed to break my back to try win..

                                                        Yeah it's not fun. I've beaten immortal 2000 players mid no problem.. But I do not have the energy to dedicate my soul to this game.

                                                        I think there could be a documentary about this as the game has all the qualities of what people love.. it should be the best game in the world.. but I must say in 2016 it was more fun.. and I knew quite a few people in real life who played it since dota 1 and were still playing it.. 95% of them have stopped since 2016..
                                                        those games were fun as hell!

                                                        Now it's just lazy... and all signs point to the developers being sociopathic and not being able to see the affects on mental health. This game is a mental health apocalypse.. and its not the communities fault. everyone has their breaking point, and being broken time and time and again leaves people in a mental health crisis.

                                                        I mean... the best players are burnt out as f.. and stop playing the game.. miracle, ana etc.. I mean take a look at quinn. He's amazing! But you can see every cell of his body is repulsed by the game. He just does it now for a job. they give their hearts and souls and for what? any other sport people would be happy to keep playing, but you give your heart and soul to these sociopaths and your life will crumble.

                                                        PS if you have cash, I can help guide you back to reality.

                                                        Ditch this game, play it for fun sometimes in turbo. but stop feeding these sociopathic egos. Live your life.

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                                                        pain

                                                          lol imagine being so bad you are stuck at fucking crusader and start making posts about how the whole system is rigged XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

                                                          pain

                                                            also who the fuck cares about rank, it affects nothing... just play the fucking game and try to have fun

                                                            DotaTimeWaste🤮

                                                              exactly, even winning is exhausting when you stripe fairness from a MOBA game
                                                              there are numerous posts and videos complain Valve's toxic culture, however Valve has installed auto ban and watch dogs on nearly all social medias
                                                              stop paying Valve, teach them how to respect players

                                                              Psychiatrist of DotA

                                                                Too many people on my friends list.. Get it at it at ranked... They gain 300 mmr lose 300 mmr gain 300 lose 300 and it goes on and on and on.. eventually having breakthroughs and then having drops.. They dedicate their lives to it. They could make college degrees, they could look after their physical health, start families; but they are trapped in this prison of grinding and grinding and grinding... Why the hell should there be a grind. The fact that turbo is the most fun mode should say it all. The idea that win = +25 and no other criteria is just ridiculous. We're in an age of unprecedented data. You can see if your last hitting a tonne and denying a tonne, if youre winnig the lane game after game, making rotations timely, making good decisions. It's in the best interest of the game to catapult people to the correct rank.. I know of people that I think play horrendously... they are around Crusader Archon rank.. and they make really bad decisions ( no hate)... then they make new accounts and callibrate to divine rank... Anyway, the answer is clear. Sociopaths in high positions at valve who do not have emotional abilities oversee these mechanisms. To them they can't see the problem. I mean there are countless accounts of lay people who can pull up this data.. chatgpt pulls it up instantly.. but valve can't.. come on..

                                                                pain

                                                                  nah I like this game im having fun here and idc mmr (yet im not stuck in fucking crusader :D)

                                                                  exit code 0 (gl;hf)

                                                                    It's not fun when you're made fully aware of how the team arrangement system works under the hood. You'd have to be insane to think carrying the game by yourself with no help against 5 people working together is fun. Like one guy said, it's extremely mentally taxing, for no real reward. You don't get paid, you can't put it on your resume, and nobody cares once the game is over. Could I break my fingers after a few wins and I get bots for teammates? With a shadow fiend buying an abyssal blade, lion mids, etc? All the worst possible conditions a person could muster up? I could, but I don't want to anymore. I'd rather play something that's enjoyable and not a chore.

                                                                    Psychiatrist of DotA

                                                                      Yeah exactly.. But it's good for me.. I do exercise.. Clean the house.. Walk my dog etc.. Then I play a dota game. Forced into carrying crybabies who've had their minds destroyed by this game and I have to mute them cause they all flaming the hell out eachother... at that point I'm like.. this isn't fun.. That said, playing with friends in turbo is still fun.

                                                                      pain

                                                                        @exit code 0 (gl;hf) bro you play Weaver pos3 and destroy your items... maybe stop complaining and blaming others and try to play real strats and have fun in this game lol... so many crybabies here just taking a game too seriously... do your best, try to have fun. why do you care what other people pick? just let them do their thing, on avarage enemies are just as dumb as your teammates, you just gotta be better and easy over 50 % winrate and you climb rank as well (which is fun, at least to me)

                                                                        pain

                                                                          to say that the system is rigged is just so funny... any real archon will win any real guardian, any real ancient will win any real archon and I would beat the hell out of any real ancient... rank is not completely accurate but it is a representation of your skill, you ppl just have to accept you are worse than avarage

                                                                          Ad.Goku™(tv/adgoku24)

                                                                            @exit code 0 If you are stuck at a mmr for long time, just accept the reality that you are garbage at this game. If you want to climb, learn to play or accept your skill cap and enjoy games at your bracket.

                                                                            Top Tip: You are not a high mmr player stuck at low mmr due to bad matchmaking.

                                                                            I climbed from crusader to divine with just pos 4 and 5 spam, so stop with the bullshit "rigged matchmaking" excuse.

                                                                            Dota 2 Department of Onco...

                                                                              If you're stuck at an MMR, it means you belong there, end of story. Yes, you sometimes get dogshit teammates who decided they want to play shit like pos4 razor or play against a smurf, but it's the same for everybody else. That happens to everybody. The only differentiation is skill. If you don't believe that, you can literally conduct a scientific experiment. Buy an account that's calibrated 1k MMR higher and see what happens to your winrate and how well you perform with your KDA. For better accuracy, get an account 1k LOWER than yours and see what happens to your winrate and KDA. You'll realize very quickly that it's not rigged.

                                                                              Also your interpretation of the graphs you posted implies poor analytical skills or you're just being lazy/trolling. Another thing people like you don't seem to realize is that people who continuously play Dota 2 get better at the game, and Dota 2 has a pretty loyal playerbase (to put it more cynically, no new players) so you're competing with a playerbase with an ever increasing amount of average playtime. In simpler terms, you need to play better today to get to Legend than you had to 5 years ago. It can look like you're stuck, but it's just your MMR that's stuck.

                                                                              Do you want to get higher MMR? You're going to have to do everything you can because that's what other people who get stuck at an MMR and want to gain it do. Spam broken heroes. Practice heroes you want to play. Counterpick. Try to find if your controls and settings can be optimized. Program an electroshocker to fry your balls each time you're supposed to stack. Take speed.

                                                                              You can get to a higher MMR, but do you know what the problem becomes at that point? You will have to keep overperforming if you want to stay at it unless you can get mechanically better at the game faster than everybody else does. MMR is not worth obsessing. Games don't get more enjoyable if you go higher, unless you really enjoy sweating it, but it sounds like you don't.

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                                                                              DotaTimeWaste🤮

                                                                                You might think your MMR means you are good Dota player, sorry that is wrong. I was winning 12 games in a row until 3000 MMR (you can check my game history) then something unfathomable happened. My team by miracle turned into jungle bots, then I lost 12 games in a row.
                                                                                Once you get to Immortal (if you can) you will see what a dog shit game looks like.
                                                                                If you are booster then be my guest, keep ruining Dota all you want nobody cares about your 2$ per hours job sir. Player count is already low as f**k.