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General DiscussionTop 3 best/worst Aghanims wielders?

Top 3 best/worst Aghanims wielders? in General Discussion
nebunu la jokuri 77777

    Yesterday I convinced a Mirana to get Aghs, told her it gives free radiance while her ulti is active. Also she was going for refresher afterwards:DD

    http://dotabuff.com/matches/612646680

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    nebunu la jokuri 77777

      Also,
      Best: Tiny, Meepo, Invoker
      Good: Pugna, Clock, Pudge
      Bad: QoP(needs other core items: bkb hex...),Jugger(can get an AS item instead,) Void(can get more dps instead)
      Worst: Luna, Gyro(don't even need to explain)

      Dire Wolf

        Comon guys, doom's isn't good enough to be core but it is clearly not the worst. Go fucking read what it does cus you seem clueless, it gives 710 more dmg not even counting if it goes longer than duration cus it gets refreshed (which it will). It doubles the damage at least, which means you cast on someone, they can't run away and come back to ult a slow team fight later, they will be dead.

        Worst I think is gryo (global? wtf, doesn't even reduce cooldown) and night stalker. Some people claim unobstructed night vision is quite useful for ganking but if you've built aghs aren't you kinda out of the gank the jungle phase?

        Proud Boi

          Vasile Lopataru: "Bad: QoP(needs other core items: bkb hex...),Jugger(can get an AS item instead,)". LMAO, with this kind of reasoning there's no wonder ur stuck in 3k.

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          Born

            aghs is bad on qop and jug. and I'm not stuck in 3k, now what?

            VioleN

              Dobar si.

              Proud Boi

                Then you simply don't know how to play jugger. Aghs on jugger should be core in pretty much every game. If u play him as a farmer or a right-clicker ur a retard.

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                Born

                  kazu najbolji.

                  I know how to play jugger and aghs is still crap. try again.

                  nebunu la jokuri 77777

                    Rugboi, looks like I have much better Jugs stats then you,as my most played hero.

                    nebunu la jokuri 77777

                      I find aghs good for when you go jugger mid/you have other carry and you gotta keep pressure on the enemy. It's only good for the cd, the 3 slashes are useless, just a hyperstone adds more dmg to your ultimate

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                      VioleN

                        Well Xan's yug win rate is 30%. Says enough :). I got 15/16 (not that much games) and I'd say scepter is core on yug! :D

                        nebunu la jokuri 77777

                          It is the cheap/ganker build, good if you wanna finish the game fast

                          Neme

                            Agha refresher on jug, is way to scarry. But ye, not core. I would say best agha is on AA and cm.

                            Worst is prolly huskar and abadon

                            Shandizzle

                              if you build aghs on NP you should kill yourselves smh

                              Neme

                                Agha on NP is amazing in some cases, also on gyro can be good ( if played as suport .

                                cartographer

                                  @Vasile Lopataru
                                  If Aghs is bad on Jug, you're playing him wrong. He's a mid-game carry - if you're not raping face by the time you hit level 6 you might as well have picked a Spectre.
                                  @Neme
                                  Agreed, Aghs on NP is useful for having to push the lanes out if your carry is underfarmed and you need to delay the game. It's a very situational pickup though.

                                  Proud Boi

                                    Vasile Lopataru:
                                    First of all, I would have liked to see how your stats on jugg would be like after 1000 games. Seeing how your Win rate is below 50% i don't think it would be all that impressive.
                                    Second, when playing against retards, a win rate of 58% also isn't very impressive. I mean, in the low 3k bracket jugg is probably one of the easiest heroes to stomp with. There is no euls, no ghost scepter, no baiting. No map awareness, nothing.
                                    It's also funny how you say aghs is good when you want to finish fast, but the thing is, YOU ALWAYS WANT TO FINISH FAST as jugg. It's in the midgame jugg shines while he falls off pretty hard lategame.

                                    xan:
                                    Yes, you went shadow blade in 14/19 of your jugger games. I think that pretty much says it all. U also went diffusal some times too, but no manta with it. Care to elaborate on what's great with that build?

                                    In general i would say that the problem with jugger as a right-clicker, is that he has no mobility, no slow, no stun; he has NOTHING in terms of abilities that helps him STICK to the target. You're just gonna end up being kited like a retard. But when i think about it, that would suit Vasile Lopataru and xan pretty well.

                                    The only thing he has that sticks him to his target is his fucking omnislash, and that's exactly what aghs enhances. Also, its not just the extra slashes, its the CD reduction. 70 seconds CD makes you a menace.

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                                    Neme

                                      ^ dude, how can you not get bored playing 1.7k juger games?

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                                      Faded

                                        if you want right click u might as well go MoM/phase/sny/bkb/bfly/ac for some tankiness to counteract the %dmg increase

                                        but those are for shits and giggles, albeit it still works in some games

                                        but aghs on jug/np are far from the worst

                                        i agree that jug is a more mid-game based carry, and the 70sec cd at all levels helps wonders with ganking teams that generally don't build euls/ghost

                                        however, if you are against a team that does (dp/voker/puck/etc), then obviously don't go aghs.

                                        Born

                                          you say prob with jug is that he lacks mobility and he had no ways to slow down/stick on targets after you complain about my sb/diffu build which is the answer to the question you posed later.
                                          holy shit you are dense.

                                          tis sad you clinge to calling people names because you can't rise above mediocrity.

                                          and violen is a friend of mine so I let him get away with it, you tho can do whatever the fuck you want, stay ignorant for all I care.

                                          Low Expectations

                                            Jugger doesnt fall off even lategame, saw him fighting a 6slotted PL with himbeing 6slotted and he won the engagement. And guess what he had Aghanims(52min in). It was a pro game Titan vs IG. I think Jugger is a great aghanims wielder esp if you rush it. QoP is also a decent aghs wielder but I cant say for sure as I dont play the hero much

                                            matrice

                                              jugger is one of the best against pl, cause countrary to other bf carry, he can go for mkb and still have enough dps to clean illu thx to his crit, which am for example will lack.

                                              ricericerice

                                                What happens when riki gets a scepter? does it do anything? if not it should be he grants true sight under 1200 range radius around him.. or his blink strike or his first strike to the opponent does not break his invisibility?

                                                Numberwang

                                                  If it doesn't say in your ULTI description "upgradable by Aghanims sceptre", it does nothing

                                                  Yoichi Isagi | Blue Lock

                                                    Three worst is:
                                                    1) Death Prophet
                                                    2) Lone Druid
                                                    3) Engima

                                                    Three best:
                                                    1) Shadow Shaman
                                                    2) Warlock
                                                    3) Lina

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                                                    Mia

                                                      Best:
                                                      1. Enigma (add refresher for 90% Hp gone)
                                                      2. Tony
                                                      3. Meepo

                                                      Worst:
                                                      1. OD
                                                      2. Puck
                                                      3. Abaddon

                                                      Stinkoman

                                                        Best:
                                                        1) Tiny
                                                        2) Visage
                                                        3) Meepo
                                                        Honorable Mention: Necrophos

                                                        Worst:
                                                        1) Outworld Destroyer
                                                        2) Puck
                                                        3) Abaddon
                                                        Honorable Mention: Undying