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General DiscussionLet's go. Mars out!!!!

Let's go. Mars out!!!! in General Discussion
A̶𝖘𝖍𝖊𝖘 (My Chat is

    First, suckers :D

    cartel

      reverse bristle + poppy from league + pa battlefury + retard spell
      overall nice imba hero
      can't wait to play it and ruin games

      Chirac.Zim

        You are Fake News Sir.

        cartel
          The DarKNovA

            "You are Fake News Sir." - random retard, who couldn't even check the official page

            Other than that though, I can see that they now have an excuse not to have a major patch for eternity again, after these underwhelming small balance patches. Sigh.

            A̶𝖘𝖍𝖊𝖘 (My Chat is

              I dont spreak fake news lol. I'm a true dotabuffer.

              varjager

                Its a he i was sure it was a strength she.

                I guess Valve dont care about the angry "ga(y)mer" nazifeminists.

                Anita Sarkeesian gonna be mad.

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                Măcel Marcel

                  Seems strong on paper.Passive will be 100% nerfed and also damage on q maybe range too

                  A̶𝖘𝖍𝖊𝖘 (My Chat is

                    1st skill = aoe dmg shackleshot targeting buildings and cliffs as well
                    2nd slill = anchor smash+crit+true strike
                    3rd skill = bristlefront
                    4th skill = chrono + monkey ult + impenetrable wall.

                    Tribo

                      you will complain by the end of the day trust me c:

                      Totentanz to The King: M ...

                        zeus counters mars

                        The DarKNovA

                          "It's like a front Bristleback"
                          Are we going to fucking disregard the fact, that it's TWICE AS EFFECTIVE? Receiving 30% damage from front, while Bristle receives 60% damage from his back... Only phsyical is the only drawback.
                          The hero is straight up broken atm though, his ulti breaks a fight like nothing else, Chrono/Monkey can kiss his ass, his stun is amazing, quite easy to farm with him, huge damage, and near impossible to put down with certain heroes.

                          MuLLi

                            Seems game ruiner!!!

                            '96 Neve Campbell

                              his ulti breaks a fight like nothing else, Chrono/Monkey can kiss his ass
                              How can you argue that his ult breaks a fight more than chrono or wukongs command? Chrono is a boring shitfest that sucks the enjoyment out of every fight its used in, at least his ult doesnt stop you from fighting and can be countered by ghost sceptre and escape spells. His ult is about on par with MK ult. Its more disruptive in terms of position control but it has a smaller radius, you dont get automatically murdered when you are inside of it, and it has a way shorter duration. I would honestly compare his ult more with Kinetic field or Dream Coil than either of those.

                              jeremy meeks' personality

                                ^^^Holy crackers you are right
                                Bye my pubs

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                                The DarKNovA

                                  Sorry parma, but nope.
                                  Let's say, enemy is overpowering you ridiculously, if you jump in with Chrono, but you're not ultra farmed ultra lategame monster, your impact won't be huge and chances are, your team will still die, alongside you, since your mates are stuck too unless you're lucky with positioning. Same thing, if your team is weak, MK's ult will not reverse a teamfight, esp if enemy has the methods to counter him.

                                  From what I saw if Mars puts down his ult, enemy team can be stuck for a very long time, while you and your mates are free to go in or out if you so desire. They literally can't make a move on you, not to mention you can break their team by putting it down in a way half of the enemy gets stuck OUTSIDE the Arena. Because yeah, its effective range is at least 200 radius larger if we take into account how it can cut the enemy out and unable to move around it in most area.

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                                  Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                    why the fuck are you guys even making definitive calls no one has even finished a game with him yet

                                    varjager

                                      I dont know gonna wait and see how the pros tackle him with skill build items then wait for nerfs and when everything settles and the hype is over then im gonna play him.

                                      The DarKNovA

                                        "Definitive calls"
                                        What the fuck do you even mean by that? We're just discussing our interpretation of the hero after first glances.

                                        BTW his ulti almost forms instantly, so can't be outplayed like Monkey, it has a few hundred castrange instead of forming under your feet, etc. It's much scarier in practice than in theory.

                                        Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                          no. you are acting like your word is the law before playing a single game with or against the hero.

                                          MuLLi

                                            I can bet he get more than 60% w-rate after first week

                                            Even 80% seems possible

                                            MuLLi

                                              1000€ bet he will have over 60% win rate if not nerfed anyone want to get 1000€

                                              HartzFear

                                                after mars and bounty whos next hero ? snickers? twix?

                                                cartel

                                                  hello i made a few tests on his ult
                                                  they dont share same damage as you
                                                  they have spear damage
                                                  no attack modifiers
                                                  cant force out
                                                  cant ghost from them
                                                  can get swapped out
                                                  cant skewer
                                                  can leap
                                                  can mk jump
                                                  bat can fly above it
                                                  slark can pounce
                                                  can snowball out
                                                  so u can get tossed out
                                                  u can get hooked in or out by pudge
                                                  can't hook out as clock and cant timber chains out
                                                  u can blink
                                                  u can sandking stun out
                                                  it hits invis units
                                                  so no weaver out
                                                  cant phoenix out
                                                  even if HE IS FUCKING FLYING LIKE BAT
                                                  AND THE MOST IMPORTANT PART
                                                  you can spell immune out
                                                  jugg
                                                  naix
                                                  bkb
                                                  and walk out

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                                                  The DarKNovA

                                                    No, but you're acting like an arrogant a-hole, or the no-fun police.
                                                    This is a not-relevant-anywhere-in-the-fcking-world thread in a forum, so why should people just keep quiet instead of talking about their impressions, again? If you want professional and level-headed analysis, you are in the wrong neighborhood (or thread), at the wrong time (hero just came out), bro.

                                                    A̶𝖘𝖍𝖊𝖘 (My Chat is

                                                      His ultimate is really strong in its own way! I don't think you can escape out of it using blink or storm ultimate or remnants, can you?

                                                      cartel

                                                        yes you can
                                                        you can also morphling out
                                                        cant pango out

                                                        cartel

                                                          actually im pepega only checked swashbuckle
                                                          didnt see rolling thunder

                                                          cartel

                                                            basically you fly out and invulerable out and spell immune out ...pudge can hook you out because of something in hook code were if you get hooked from some where you always end up at the place from which the hook was thrown
                                                            this was added when fountain hooking was a thing

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                                                            Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                                              you are allowed to make your shitty analysis, dont cry when people call you out for it though

                                                              The DarKNovA

                                                                Okay, the fact you can BKB out really makes it not-so-hard to outplay, didn't expect that. That changes things...

                                                                Except you're not "calling out people for doing their analysis", but saying "WTF GUYS WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT A BRAND NEW HERO ON A FORUM REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE".
                                                                Where the hell do you think you are?

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                                                                cartel

                                                                  guys pls stop fighting and admire my experiment ty

                                                                  The DarKNovA

                                                                    Thanks for your experiment KEEL, much needed.

                                                                    cartel

                                                                      your welcome gamer

                                                                      A̶𝖘𝖍𝖊𝖘 (My Chat is

                                                                        For a moment there I thought he was the counter to all escape heroes, now that would be broken af. You can blink, remnant, zip out of his ultimate, Zz

                                                                        '96 Neve Campbell

                                                                          Can someone check if you can blink out of his ult? Thats the main thing here. If you can blink in and out of his ult then it is nowhere near as strong as Chrono and probs weaker than MK

                                                                          cartel

                                                                            someone test the other aspect of the ult where you can't throw things in....
                                                                            can't do more testing today if no one does i will do it tmw

                                                                            A̶𝖘𝖍𝖊𝖘 (My Chat is

                                                                              Can you tiny toss enemy into the ring? That would be some Luls..

                                                                              cartel

                                                                                yes you can parma.....READ MY EXPERIMENT IT'S RIGHT THERE OMFG

                                                                                MuLLi

                                                                                  Who cares about his ulti while his passive is 2x as stronk as BB passive

                                                                                  '96 Neve Campbell

                                                                                    I think the most broken thing about this guy will be how tanky he is tbh. The rest of his spells have all been done better by other abilities imo

                                                                                    Cheap Laugh Guy

                                                                                      The Bristlefront thing isn't exactly true since it only blocks physical attacks.

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                                                                                      MuLLi

                                                                                        while his Q and W clear waves instantly so winning games before 30min should be standard

                                                                                        '96 Neve Campbell

                                                                                          Lol everyone is jebaiting me and writing out my thoughts in the minutes and seconds i have the write window open

                                                                                          '96 Neve Campbell

                                                                                            @Mulli there are plenty of heros who farm at similar rates and suggesting he will have anything above a 60% winrate is fucking ludicrous

                                                                                            A̶𝖘𝖍𝖊𝖘 (My Chat is

                                                                                              Mars is huge, huge!!!

                                                                                              A̶𝖘𝖍𝖊𝖘 (My Chat is

                                                                                                @fall: was just a comparison. Didn't mean the exact thing!

                                                                                                MuLLi

                                                                                                  @parmaviolets

                                                                                                  1000€ bet is open so accept it or be silent

                                                                                                  cartel

                                                                                                    i bet 54% winrate max
                                                                                                    he will NOT have 60% winrate
                                                                                                    no1. reason because of retards will play him
                                                                                                    no2. build experimenting people will be building tank items when obviously the right items are blood thorn nullifier daedalus blink radiance
                                                                                                    send me the money in 2 weeks because i will win

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                                                                                                    MuLLi

                                                                                                      so u want to go in for bet? It is 20000 EGP

                                                                                                      cartel

                                                                                                        sure