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General Discussion1k games are harder than 3k.

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MUSTanG

    https://www.dotabuff.com/players/909377400 this is my brothers new account and hes at normal skill bracket at 40 games and now its 60 games so i gave 17 wins and 3 losses BUT still nornal bracket even if i dominate games :(

    Is there any chance of getting high mmr or medal?? I got 70% win rate now at 60 games...
    Pls answer me...thanks

    ubica

      well this thread IS quite funny

      SayingPleaseHelps

        Hey, OP!

        I need to learn how to read
        Yes you do, you intestines-for-brains little squeaker.
        You dared me to find your examples of these behavours:
        Feel free to find a game where I rushed no boots radiance and picked a pure jungler into a push lineup

        I did give you an example of your worthless jungling. Your excuses for that have already been debunked for the misguided ramblings of an utterly deluded brainlet that you are. Nobody forced you to jungle, you forced your AA mid with support starting items.

        paying attention to what I actually said

        I would rather pay attention to what you did, and guess what, I did. And I observed going jungle against pugna/lesh/axe, in addition giving an MK a free lane. You, on the other hand, keep focusing on the imaginary world where you were forced to make bad decisions by the unrelenting force of whatever it is that controls your mind instead of you. Paying attention to what you say has already been proven to be utterly useless, as you have been confirmed to be a low IQ pathological liar, failing to maintain any consistency in any of your lies, yet trying to mislead and manipulate ppl into believing you are in any way good at every turn.

        Learn to read/learn/both. As long as you keep failing at those fundamental human faculties you will remain the 1k shitter that you are, getting rolled by 99 cs at 36 minutes Invoker "smurfs" and jungling Huskar "smurfs" and garbage Storm "smurfs".

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        SayingPleaseHelps

          @MUSTanG

          Is there any chance of getting high mmr or medal?? I got 70% win rate now at 60 games...

          I'd hate to break it to you but you may have missed what MMR is. It would take you to actually play Ranked to make any changes to MMR or medals. Which is weird since the account you are posting from has a medal and some ranked games on it. Are you OP's mental doppleganger by any chance?

          '96 Neve Campbell

            Fuck me dude you are pathetic. I recall why i decided I wasnt going to reply to your trash and I think that was probably the best course of action so whatever. You can run your mouth like the angry little child that you are and I will ignore it now.

            '96 Neve Campbell

              intestines-for-brains little squeaker.

              utterly deluded brainlet that you are.

              you have been confirmed to be a low IQ pathological liar

              Learn to read/learn/both.

              Honestly its just pathetic slander. I can only imagine how disenfranchised and lonely someone has to be to try so hard to insult someone they know barely anything about on the internet. I almost feel bad for you but to be honest you probably deserve the sad life you live so I will reserve my sympathy for someone else

              '96 Neve Campbell

                Sometimes I wonder where the moderators are on this forum as well cause this toxic child certainly wouldnt be allowed to run his insignificant mouth and abuse people on most other forums ive seen in my life

                SayingPleaseHelps

                  I recall why i decided I wasnt going to reply to your trash and I think that was probably the best course of action so whatever. ... I will ignore it now.

                  Three replies in a row. Good job on not replying. Just like all the job you do.

                  Fuck me dude you are pathetic
                  That, of course, makes me pathetic, makes sense.

                  You can run your mouth like the angry little child that you are. I almost feel bad for you but to be honest you probably deserve the sad life you live so I will reserve my sympathy for someone else

                  Your universal likeability is almost tangible here.

                  '96 Neve Campbell

                    Your universal likeability is almost tangible here.
                    Dont recall where I claimed to be universally likable, being actually capable of making friends and functioning as a human being isnt the same as being universally likable... maybe one day you will leave your parents house and find some friends of your own?

                    SayingPleaseHelps

                      Dont recall where I claimed to be universally likable

                      And everyone likes me. Everyone.

                      Memory problems in addition to learning disability? Well, it happens. With you it happens all the time. Wich is the reason why distinguishing between your inability to read or inability to learn is so difficult. Keep projecting though, it's certainly gonna help.

                      '96 Neve Campbell

                        Not only is it depressing that you went and looked for that quote but its also depressing that you dont recognise an exaggeration. You are kinda depressing in general arent you?

                        Jacked

                          hey when did OP become ancient player?

                          SayingPleaseHelps

                            @OP

                            Not only is it depressing that you went and looked for that quote
                            Well, isn't it depressing that I back up my arguments, huh? Except I didn't need to go look for it. I have a functional memory, so since I read it I remember it. Something you are consistently proving yourself being incapable of.

                            I do feel proud to be depressing to the detestable walking (?) bag of intestines such as yourself. That's my calling in life.

                            '96 Neve Campbell

                              hey when did OP become ancient player?
                              About a month back

                              Huh duh op rly dum! Ugg! Op dun kno how to read even tho she is in high education and respond with good english huh duh im rly smart duhhh duhhhhhhh duhhhhhhhhhhh why op cant read or write duuuuhgg why op no have memory duuuuuuh duh duuuh .

                              I do feel proud to be depressing to the detestable walking (?) bag of intestines such as yourself. That's my calling in life.
                              Thats a pretty sad calling. Is being the local garbage collector also one of your many aspirations?

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                              SayingPleaseHelps

                                Huh duh op rly dum! Ugg! Op dun kno how to read even tho she is in high education and respond with good english huh duh im rly smart duhhh duhhhhhhh duhhhhhhhhhhh why op cant read or write duuuuhgg why op no have memory duuuuuuh duh duuuh .
                                Some more of your real personality shining through is it? Well, some ppl do call 1k shitters "monkeys" but I was weary to do so without any concrete evidence. However with this gem we can dismiss the already strained notion of you having shit for brains and move directly to designating you as a self-admitted monkey.

                                Congrats. Are you a Red Book monkey or an expendable one btw?

                                '96 Neve Campbell

                                  Some more of your real personality shining through is it? Well, some ppl do call 1k shitters "monkeys" but I was weary to do so without any concrete evidence. However with this gem we can dismiss the already strained notion of you having shit for brains and move directly to designating you as a self-admitted monkey.
                                  You do realise that quote was a joke about how fucking braindead this constant insinuation that im incapable of reading or writing is right? But yeah that went right over your head like basically everything else, but im the monkey? Alright then buddy if it makes you feel better about yourself lmao. I think I compared arguing with you like bullying a mentally handicapped kid at a school and you are currently doing your best to validate that :P

                                  SayingPleaseHelps

                                    You do realise that quote was a joke
                                    It's almost at the point of becoming self-aware, people! Fascinating, just one more little push and we will arrive there! Alas, she's dumb, won't happen. Slash fucking s my dude.

                                    Nice sentiment btw.

                                    Sometimes I wonder where the moderators are on this forum as well cause this toxic child certainly wouldnt be allowed to run his insignificant mouth and abuse people on most other forums ive seen in my life

                                    I think I compared arguing with you like bullying a mentally handicapped kid at a school and you are currently doing your best to validate that :P

                                    With consistency like that I'm sure you have a bright future ahead of you.

                                    You do realise that quote was a joke about how fucking braindead this constant insinuation that im incapable of reading or writing is right
                                    It's not insinuation though. I said
                                    Wich is the reason why distinguishing between your inability to read or inability to learn is so difficult
                                    and you failed to read it properly confirming the inability to read part for the fifth time I think.
                                    Inability to learn was confirmed on couple of other occasions. No insinuation there, just cold hard observable reality.

                                    '96 Neve Campbell

                                      Ok buddy. Im incapable of reading and writing. Ignore this message and the fact thats ive replied to your autism on many occassions, they must have been figments of your imagination since I do not possess the intelligence to read what you say and proceed to drag your ass!

                                      Thorns

                                        I have an idea, how if you give me your best play match ID, and i will try to help you.
                                        Either i will point out all your mistakes and tell you that nothing wrong with Dota current MMR system, or will agree with you that you deserve 3K MMR.

                                        '96 Neve Campbell

                                          ^People have done this already and I have had only conflicting reports on what rank I should be. Some people have told me I play like a 2k, other people have told me I play better than a 3k. Nobody has told me I play like a 1k apart from this saddo that wont stop harrassing me. Feel free to watch any replay you would like. Im relatively inconsistent but I guess if you pick a game that I won with high kd, a game I won with a lower kd and a game that I fed in you would get a decent picture...

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                                          Vandal

                                            I think i have a lot of experience in the low brackets and the medium bracket and would be able to estimate MMR correctly (I have done this for my RL friends and have done so correctly).

                                            I see your latest game is a TB game too. I will check it out and let you know ^_^

                                            Suck my tiny curry dick

                                              What do y’all like to put on your toast? I like marmalade.

                                              SayingPleaseHelps

                                                Some people have told me I play like a 2k, other people have told me I play better than a 3k
                                                Puffing your chest as always, without a trace of truth. No one gauged your skill at 3k+ and those who did put you at 2k did so with caveats.

                                                Im relatively inconsistent but I guess if you pick a game that I won with high kd, a game I won with a lower kd and a game that I fed in you would get a decent picture...
                                                Also you have no idea how Dota works. Any game would do. Any single game allows to judge your mechanics clearly enough. Decisionmaking is another deal, but you are a moron after all, so no actual decisionmaking is expected.

                                                '96 Neve Campbell

                                                  What do y’all like to put on your toast? I like marmalade.
                                                  i like jam

                                                  Vandal

                                                    I watched your TB game (I'm bored and have a bad net so can't play right now so why not)
                                                    Few tips I can think of:
                                                    - Don't start with a quelling blade.
                                                    What I would like to start with is stout shield+6tangos+Salve+2 branches
                                                    you can get the quelling blade from the side shop. and you don't need it that early because of Metamorphosis. or if you have a support who gets a good power spike at level 2 you can still just skip the branches and save 100 gold, and get QB after collecting bounties. but you will always need the regen in order to stay on top of creeps and not miss LHs

                                                    - Tell your support to not block the first creep wave so the wave doesn't meet under your tower.

                                                    - After minute 1 you just stood there doing nothing missing Last hits because you were afraid.
                                                    You got some very bad trades and that scared you to go back in again even after you regained your HP. with the Dazzle nearby and their spells on cooldown. they don't have kill potential on you so just go back in.

                                                    - You don't Aggro. as a TB who is a melee hero who does nothing to enemies (other than metamorphosis) you must almost always aggro creeps. this will make ranged enemies take damage when harassing you, which is what that bane did for free.
                                                    overall you got 7 last hits at 3:30. they were mostly because of regen, and then because of first creep wave pushing, and then because of you not aggroing and having bad trades.

                                                    - Your use of Meta has been really bad. First time was okay since you weren't sure if they would commit or run away, but second time you used it with 200 HP when you were clearly going to die (Which again is because of lack of regen)

                                                    - At 4:10 you started chasing that Bane when all creeps were with low HP and missed all the last hits for a bad chase. Obviously you can't chase people around with a Terrorblade with no lockdown, especially when you're about to last hit, especially when enemy has full HP, and especially when It's a Bane who can just use nightmare.

                                                    - At 5:15 when you push the wave under enemy tower you can hit the camps instead of waiting around doing nothing for 30 seconds.
                                                    I would suggest using your illusion to pull (or in this case you could've done it yourself) since your dazzle was a terrible support.

                                                    -At 5:40 you used your courier to send another wraith band, which is okay, but you are out of regen items and you have lot of extra gold. why not send like 1 salve 1 tango 2 clarities? whether you jungle after or stay in lane (preferably both) you will need them. This first 6 minutes would've looked 100% different if you had more regen. and the only reason you got these last hits were because enemy didn't get enough regen (this shit happens at low mmr), otherwise you messed your Metamorphosis twice, and you never aggroed.

                                                    - At 6:00 ish, you saw enemy support (Bane) going to your mid. Enemy PA is just standing behind and trying to get LHs, and you're getting ez last hits yourself while PA has no kill potential on you. All Dazzle is doing there now is leeching XP. so I would tell my support to get the hell out of lane and go help mid or top or whatever (of course I would be kind and say "Thanks man This lane is mine now thanks to you, go help win other lanes too"). this is the time for you to start pushing lane, and farming side camps at the same time (in fact you should've done this earlier). this way your team can pressure enemy safelane or mid which means more space for you later.

                                                    - At 7:00 I was so excited that you used your meta, because I thought you saw the siege creep and you were going for the tower. Of course you had no regen so I knew you would have problems, but still you thought about taking tower and it was great. but then I saw how easily you let your siege creep die. you could've tanked one hit from tower to keep it alive for next wave.

                                                    - Again you sent no regen with courier...

                                                    - you're not farming efficiently. The greatest reason I can do well with TB in low brackets is how he can farm both lane and camps at like minute 4. You still haven't touched any jungle creeps, not even for pulling or stacking (Which was doable)

                                                    - At minute 10 you wasted your meta again. It has a good cast time you don't have to use it before joining a fight when everyone already used all their disables.

                                                    - You're playing game like minute 2, keeping lane equilibrium and farming lane when everyone is ganking each other.
                                                    Now you should be creating space for yourself, which means pushing lane and making enemy heroes come to your lane and use their TPs.
                                                    advantage of pushing lane and coming back to depush is, enemy has to react to your push, while you can safely hit the camps. nobody has time to kill you if they have creeps under tower. then when lane pushes back to your tower, you can decide whether you want to defend (do it if you feel like you can, if enemy threats are elsewhere, or, if your team is coming and you know you can win), or just leave it and farm.
                                                    You're not using TB to it's full potential at all with staying in lane (This would be fine if you stayed to kill enemy tower)

                                                    - minute 15, You did some nice plays, which are way better than average 1.5ks, but you're farming passively. Everyone (who is a threat) showed on top. This should mean you rushing to lane and killing enemy tower. but you farmed jungle, then went to lane and stayed passively to control equilibrium (which is dumb at minute 15)

                                                    Rest is just enemy being outplayed and not apply any pressure and not even farming themselves.

                                                    Okay so overall your game sense is way higher than everyone else in game. stuff like even getting stick against PA in lane, TPing to escape ganks (well played there), getting Reflection in that lane which was a very smart choice against 2 strong right clickers, and map awareness. Especially in teamfights and midgame to lategame which could be because you're not a pos1 player (these are the things you picked up as support in your high mmr games in party). but you are not much better than 2ks. I would say with your current skills as a position1 player, you would have positive win rate until 2.2k ish.

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                                                    '96 Neve Campbell

                                                      Thank you for your assessment. I think most of what you said is valid, I was kinda tilted by the bane and obviously you couldnt see what was said in allied chat but I actually told the dazzle to leave land and stack and the dazzle told me they would get clarities for me. I didnt buy HP regen because he has healing and tbf I sometimes start without a Qblade. idk why I bought it that game

                                                      EX Crusader player

                                                        She's no higher than 2.2k, I';ve said it multiple times. And I assure you, se's not gonna get much higher either.

                                                        she plays like a sub 2k/high 1k player. Also, don't waste your time actually trying to help her, she doesn't really want any help, she's just atention vhore.

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                                                        '96 Neve Campbell

                                                          I find it astounding how this guy goes from telling me how im a strong, decent person to calling me an attention *hore because I fed in an unranked two stack. Really quite sad

                                                          Apostle

                                                            All of you are sad for keeping this 3 month old thread going and arguing for seemingly no reason, this thread will not last over 12-36 hours if it was posted on reddit or discord, but everyone in dotabuff is a bit special so yeah

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                                                            EX Crusader player

                                                              I find it astounding how this guy goes from telling me how im a strong, decent person to calling me an attention *hore because I fed in an unranked two stack. Really quite sad

                                                              I was so fucking wrong. I can freely admit I said all that, but you tricked me. You're actually just boarderline retarded. Which kinda of makes me retarded too, coinsidering I felt for it. Oh well

                                                              SayingPleaseHelps

                                                                @OP

                                                                I find it astounding how this guy goes from telling me how im a strong, decent person to calling me an attention *hore because I fed in an unranked two stack

                                                                It's called "reassessment in light of new information". Not that it would say anything to you.

                                                                @エイミーの亡霊

                                                                but everyone in dotabuff is a bit special so yeah
                                                                Well, you are here with our special bunch, It warms my heart.

                                                                '96 Neve Campbell

                                                                  You guys really are special snowflakes sorry. If someone protest feeding in a pub game is enough to put you off a person in contrary of weeks worth of friendship then that either means you are really weak or really intolerant. Which is kinda the same thing but whatever.

                                                                  Apostle

                                                                    Yeah except I just commented like just now in here and I didn't before, whereas everyone in here literally dragged this crap for 3 months straight

                                                                    Mods should either lock this thread down already or everyone should migrate to discord/reddit, so it'd end in a day

                                                                    I don't even like Parma but god damn you all need to have a psychotic break

                                                                    cartel

                                                                      this is so sad
                                                                      alexa

                                                                      '96 Neve Campbell

                                                                        ^I kept it going cause I am genuinely looking for constructive discussion
                                                                        A) about the topic and the fact that we could all use a grand recalibration of mmr
                                                                        B) about what I personally am doing wrong as a player/

                                                                        There are ppl here who have spent the past few months trying and failing to get some kinda rise from me and thats their loss, but as long as I make friends with cool people willing to talk to me about dota then im happy to keep this thread alive.

                                                                        SayingPleaseHelps

                                                                          @エイミーの亡霊

                                                                          Yeah except I just commented like just now in here and I didn't before

                                                                          you all need to have a psychotic break

                                                                          Mods should either lock this thread down already

                                                                          Welcome my dude, you will fit right in!

                                                                          @OP

                                                                          B) about what I personally am doing wrong as a player/

                                                                          It's everything. First of all not accepting that fact.

                                                                          Apostle

                                                                            Aren't you an idealistic one

                                                                            Considering half the thread starts off with "every guy in the comments section is an incel and y'all just trash", I doubt the thread is going down the path of constructive discussion to begin with

                                                                            Not that everyone is much better responding back with slurs and crap. Anyways, I contacted a staff member to lock the thread so we'll see how it goes oof

                                                                            EX Crusader player

                                                                              You guys really are special snowflakes sorry. If someone protest feeding in a pub game is enough to put you off a person in contrary of weeks worth of friendship then that either means you are really weak or really intolerant. Which is kinda the same thing but whatever.

                                                                              No. it's just that when people recive the same treatment that they give, they get confused/upset/delusional. And on a top of that I just don't want to deal with someone like you. Had that kind of people in my real life, was pain in the ass to ditch them off later.

                                                                              A) about the topic and the fact that we could all use a grand recalibration of mmr

                                                                              You wish? So you can hire someone to artificially boost your MMR, you lil bitch?

                                                                              B) about what I personally am doing wrong as a player/

                                                                              This is hilarious. You don't give a shit about what are you doing wrong. You just want atention and validation.

                                                                              cartel

                                                                                +1 to lock thread down
                                                                                it's getting very un EPIC

                                                                                '96 Neve Campbell


                                                                                  No. it's just that when people recive the same treatment that they give, they get confused/upset/delusional. And on a top of that I just don't want to deal with someone like you. Had that kind of people in my real life, was pain in the ass to ditch them off later.

                                                                                  Uh no. We were completely fine until I fed. Stop pretending like there is a deeper reason as to why you turned on me.

                                                                                  EX Crusader player

                                                                                    There's no deeper reason. You seem to have an issue with reading. The main reason why I decided to do what I did is because I just don't like people who act like you do.

                                                                                    '96 Neve Campbell

                                                                                      I contacted a staff member to lock the thread so we'll see how it goes oof
                                                                                      If I wanted this thread locked I would delete it myself. These people are too feeble minded to insult me so I would say the positives of meeting ppl willing to teach/play with me is outweighing the sad attempts at derailing the thread.

                                                                                      SayingPleaseHelps

                                                                                        @エイミーの亡霊

                                                                                        Anyways, I contacted a staff member to lock the thread so we'll see how it goes oof

                                                                                        Aren't you special. You come here and your first post is
                                                                                        All of you are sad for keeping this 3 month old thread going and arguing for seemingly no reason, this thread will not last over 12-36 hours if it was posted on reddit or discord, but everyone in dotabuff is a bit special so yeah
                                                                                        this gem and your second post has
                                                                                        you all need to have a psychotic break
                                                                                        this in it, but sure, you are the perfect arbiter of what thread deserves to stay and what has to go. If you were capable of actual reading comprehension you would have noticed while assessing the local shitslinging that it is entirely consensual.

                                                                                        But of course who doesn't like a hypersensitive censor these days. At least OP has the tenacity to stand on their obviously wrong position and take it like a champ. You are a new level of pathetic whiner.

                                                                                        Eilean Siar

                                                                                          2.92 KDA on PA, trash

                                                                                          Apostle

                                                                                            If I wanted this thread locked I would delete it myself. These people are too feeble minded to insult me so I would say the positives of meeting ppl willing to teach/play with me is outweighing the sad attempts at derailing the thread.

                                                                                            Unfortunately, you don't get to call the shots here.

                                                                                            '96 Neve Campbell

                                                                                              If you were capable of actual reading comprehension you would have noticed while assessing the local shitslinging that it is entirely consensual.
                                                                                              Imagine accusing someone who just showed up of being incapable to read. Is that your only insult?

                                                                                              2.92 KDA on PA, trash
                                                                                              Oh look another smurf account with an opinion. The average kd on pa is 2.83. Therefore im above average. The average MMR in dota is Archon II, so by some twisted logic I play PA like an Archon III/IV at the very least right? :P

                                                                                              '96 Neve Campbell

                                                                                                Unfortunately, you don't get to call the shots here.
                                                                                                And you do? Can you maybe deflate the size of your head when you come waltzing in on here like u own the whole website please?

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                                                                                                Eilean Siar

                                                                                                  LOL, smurf? Thats my main account, I play dota 7 months. Watch my first game... I understood the game on Turbo and SD mode.

                                                                                                  Eilean Siar

                                                                                                    Sorry for my bad english